This would be great news if proven accurate. I would rather see the 20 watts of excess heat being generated with an input of less than 20 watts to prove that the thing has a good beginning COP before stability issues are handled. The larger that ratio is, the less flak will be generated by the skeptics and the closer to a real product the experimenters begin.
Rossi has a huge head start in his quest for an actual product, but it is encouraging to see that others are in the running. The fact that others are nipping at his heels might make him move faster. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 9:19 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Technova Poster at ICCF 18: excess 20 watts over a week 20 W is good! That is a lot of heat for most laboratory-scale calorimeters. As long as input is below ~100 W it is hard to imagine they would have difficulty measuring that. It is actually easier to measure heat from 10 to 100 W than, say, 1000 W. I doubt the s/n ratio improves much at 1000 W. Depending on the size of the device, and the operating temperature, a thing like this might be as significant as Rossi's results. Rossi works on a large scale because he likes to. There is nothing wrong with that. It is better by far than working at a power level below 0.1 W, where things get dicey. Rossi's high power levels impress people. But you understand how science and technology work, you will see that -- a ~20 W stable, controlled reaction at a high temperature using common materials . . . . . . is really as impressive as Rossi's. Okay, that 5 conditions, all of them difficult to meet. Of those 5 stability and control are the most important. Anyone who achieves them, at any power level easy to measure, has made a tremendous breakthrough. Rossi certainly has. Mizuno may have a similar breakthrough. I hope to upload his paper at the time of the conference. I hope it will done to his satisfaction and mine. If not I shall upload the poster, and the paper soon after the conference. - Jed

