Bob,       Another possibility is that a quantum state of plasmon polariton 
condensate needs to form ahead of the reaction to divide the energy equally 
instead of destructive hot spots.  Axil has made some very  plausible posits 
regarding Plasmonics that act both as an energy buffer to soften the exiting 
energy from reactions while also forming  a resonant target for IR radiation to 
further stimulate the inverse Rydberg inside the NAE, one of his recent 
citations also included something that has been teasing my subconscious and 
therefore will just put it out there for the collective because it might be 
important... the citation referenced the formation of Rydberg matter -which 
then- transformed somehow to inverse Rydberg matter once in the NAE --- I have 
a gut hunch this represents a form of hard  linkage between submicron and NAE 
where Rydberg hydrogen forms outside the cavity and then transitions to inverse 
Rydberg as a function of Casimir geometry.
Fran

From: Bob Higgins [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Ghost of the HotCat ?

One of the differences between the HotCat and Rossi's original eCat was that 
the original devices were loaded with H2 and THEN heated.  This allowed the H2 
to be present while the eCat was heating to the reaction operating point 
(>300C).  Apparently in this transition from cold to ~300C, there is a 
temperature at which the reaction begins in some "starved" mode where the gamma 
output is either greater amplitude or higher energy (allowing it to pass 
through the shielding) than when the operating temperature is reached.  Once 
some kind of "saturated" condition is reached at the desired operating 
temperature, either the gamma amplitude subsides, or the gamma photon energy 
declines and it is substantially absorbed (thermalized) in the apparatus.

In Rossi's HotCat, the H2 is supplied by a metal hydride, possibly MgH2.  This 
hydride releases its H2 sharply upon reaching a critical temperature of about 
~300C.  This may allow the transition temperature range to be crossed without 
substantial H2 being present; thus avoiding the transition emissions.  How the 
H2/hydride behaves in cool-down, I am not certain.  In shutdown cooling, I am 
not sure that the H2 will be re-absorbed as sharply or at the same temperature. 
 Absorbtion and de-absorbtion will also depend on the exact metal hydride used, 
its powder size, and whether or not something like a lithium borohydrate 
catalyst is used.

This may mean that emissions are avoided in startup and operation, but not in 
shutdown.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Jones Beene 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It is not me that it "insisting". The data indicates no gamma radiation.
Very thorough radiation testing of the HotCat concluded that no gamma
radiation exists in that version.

There may have been minor gamma radiation in the earlier ECat but it was
orders of magnitude too little to account for the thermal gain.


-----Original Message-----
From: David ledin

Why you insist that e-cat don't emit gamma ray while both rossi and
focardi claimed otherwise.

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