Another issue raises its head when you attempt to align a large number of 
individual magnets together to achieve a large overall field.  The individual 
magnetic elements are subject to a strong magnetic force which attempts to 
reverse their directions. The energy stored within the total field is minimized 
when the alignment of the atoms is random, hence the effect tends to eliminate 
the net field.


For some strange reason, this appears to not be happening with the DGT device 
if what is reported is correct.  The only explanation that I can arrive at off 
the cuff is that the nickel's magnetic behavior can lock the field of the 
hydrogen contained within it.  This does not seem to offer an explanation that 
would lead to the massive field levels that DGT speaks of.


If a very large DC current were flowing due to interaction with super 
conductive material, then perhaps a far reaching field could exit the device.  
Personally, I find this difficult to accept.  How could such an enormous field 
level not been seen until recently?  Rossi has hinted before that something 
weird of this nature might be happening, but I suspect that he made a 
measurement error or is engaging in misdirection to confuse us all.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Roarty, Francis X <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jul 26, 2013 6:16 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion/MFMP implications for electrolysis?



Jones,
f/h, hydrino AND relativistic hydrogen are all the same. I have always 
supported this hypothesis as the most likely source of the energy if not the 
primary source [relativistic/ZPE], or at very least the necessary bootstrap to 
enable the nuclear path theories. As far as the large magnetic fields I wanted 
to post the temporal chacteristics of relativistic hydrogen compounding the 
field but think you trumped me by just applying the contracted diameters and 
inverse square law for field strength. Nicely said! but I don’t necessarily 
agree about the slow buildup of f/h, I suspect f/h forms proportional to 
loading if the correct geometry is present. You may also need to exceed a 
hydrogen population/area threshold to achieve the 20% synchronization 
[metronome platform] before the “agitation” energy [sparks or heater pulses] 
can actually hard link thru the um scale to the f/h migrating thru the nm 
scale. IMHO it is these f/h that are able to rectify energy from the changes in 
casimir value.. recent posts have convinced me this agitation energy requires 
micron geometry to create plasmons which then upconvert the agitation to local 
hydrogen that is in lockstep linkage with the f/h in nearby  nano geometry. 
Skipping the normal energy loss with harmonics.
Fran
 

From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion/MFMP implications for electrolysis?

 
 
From: DJ Cravens
 

the B field of an orbiting 1s electron about a H nucleus is about 12T at the 
nucleus.
 
Yes – but since this field is cancelled by the other electron (which completes 
the orbital shell) in the molecule, it is diamagnetic. But this brings up an 
important point about a possible role for f/H or fractional hydrogen (Mills 
hydrino or Rydberg matter are presumably the same).
 
Since the magnetic near-field goes up exponentially as the electron cloud is 
reduced in diameter we can then explain how such a large external field could 
be related to a retained population of f/H. It need not be a large mass, given 
the intensity. One does not need to accept Mills theory for the energy gain but 
it helps for the magnetic anomaly.
 
The hypothesis goes something like this. When a proton is surrounded by a 
fractional orbit, that 12 T near-field of normal monatomic hydrogen would 
increase exponentially; and thus the net amperage-equivalent of the entire 
reactor would increase when many were aligned - all due to the enhanced field.
 
Since the active material in the DGT Demo had been run many times, we would 
expect that over time the number of fractional hydrogen atoms builds up. They 
would be captured internally by the ferromagnetic powder– nickel - between runs 
and retained. A vacuum could not release them due to the intense self-field, 
but the net field of the reactor would have a tendency to realign randomly or 
anti-ferromagnetic on cool-down – so there is no apparent external field until 
the electron discharge aligns things .
 
If the Defkalion reactor has retained a fractional gram of f/H over many runs - 
which is strongly bound to nickel nanoparticles, the magnetic anomaly is less 
of a mystery. In a rough cross-comparison of units in moles and amps- Avogadro 
and Coulomb are basically a factor of 100,000 apart and we would have the 
equivalent amperage of 100,000 per gram of f/H - but with possibly much more 
field strength (amp-turn equivalent) due to increased near-field of each f/H 
particle.
 
The falsifiability of this hypothesis would be that the reactor does not show a 
high field on the very first run with new nickel - or even the first few runs. 
It could possibly take a hundred hours or more to build up a population of f/H. 
The magnetic field should then increase to an equilibrium point when electrons 
are passed through the reactor.
 
Jones
 

 




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