That is interesting Jones.  The singing bowl demonstrates the principle that 
high quality sonic resonators can exist even with the interaction of air 
sapping away energy.  I did some work with mechanically tuned strips of 
metglass used in anti theft applications.  These cute little strips were tuned 
to 58 kilohertz and exhibit a Q of 300.   The net real part of the pole was 
still fairly wide so the decay of the resonant frequency occurred within a few 
milliseconds.  That is long enough to distinguish these tags from other natural 
signals.

I guess most of us are familiar with quartz crystals which have a vast Q in 
many cases well over 10,000.  They are typically in contact with air inside 
their cases, so perhaps the vacuum would only result in an incremental 
improvement to the mechanical decay.

The cold cathode idea you mention does not ring any bells in my head.  (pun 
intended)  Perhaps you should follow up on that idea and see if it has legs.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 1:53 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Sound in a Vacuum



Dave,
 
Speaking of theimplications of “sound in a vacuum”, or lack thereof - one 
possibilityof interest which may have promise for gain (Maxwell’s demon type 
ofgain) involves the so called “singing bowl” phenomena. 
 
These bowls can producesustained ringing for extended periods but are of course 
not gainful inthemselves (despite the apparent rise in frequency).
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e6oA02wk94
 
A tuning fork could substitutein this concept - but imagine such a bowl in 
vacuum, as you suggest. Now –however - the intent of this virtual experiment is 
that the sustainedvibrations are applied in the context of a cold cathode. 
 
So, also imagine that thebowl-in-a-vacuum has a coating of graphene (or other 
low work function electronemitter) and that the bowl vibrations are used to 
break up “space charge”which is a limiting factor for cold cathode emission.
 
BTW here is the favoredcold cathode material – a bed of CNT
 
http://techlinkcenter.org/summaries/cold-cathode-low-emission-threshold-and-high-current-density
 
Given that ballistic electronshave a minimum potential which may exceed the 
work required to emit them if thespace charge can be bypassed – there is the 
possibility of converting mechanicalvibrations to energy, and thereby 
extracting ambient heat from the emitter asgain, which also makes the emitter 
more conductive for a bit of positive feedback…
 
… or not.
 

From:David Roberson 



 


The thermal power exiting each square centimeter of surface areais well within 
reason when 10 micrometer material is used and should not causea meltdown 
according to preliminary figures.


 

 






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