I have been extending the reach of my model over the last few days as time 
permits and have found that a tantalizing bit of data has arisen.  DGT uses a 
spark discharge within the hydrogen gas as a form of activation mechanism.   
Also, the recent discussions of power being directly generated by some unknown 
effect within the Rossi device left me wondering about the magnitude of DC 
current that could originate within.  Many months ago I came to the conclusion 
that a moderate amount of DC power could be extracted in the event of charges 
particles being generated by the fusion process.

To efficiently extract this particle power, a large reverse voltage was 
required for the particle to overcome and insulation was needed to eliminate 
any sneak paths for the returning current to follow.  All of these nasty 
requirements made the technique look less promising, but some good may have 
come out of that effort.  I calculated that a few milliamps of current was all 
that would arise from the process which was generating the many kilowatts of 
heat energy.

So, I made an interesting calculation of the effective current needed to supply 
protons only to the nickel surface that are freed as a result of breakdown of 
hydrogen gas into protons and electrons by the high voltage sparks of DGT.  
Using the parameters below as initial conditions, I obtained a value of 2 
milliamps.   This is well within the range of the spark supply discussed by DGT 
in their latest demonstration.

Perhaps this information is irrelevant since DGT believes that the expanded 
hydrogen slips into a nickel nucleus disguised as a neutron under ideal 
conditions.  The high energy hydrogen is derived as a result of their spark, 
but maybe there is another explanation.   The nickel matrix might absorb bare 
protons much easier than molecules of hydrogen.  After all, a proton is far 
smaller than a hydrogen atom.  And, the electric field iminating from the 
nickel surface is in a direction to attract the free protons while repelling 
electrons.  For these reasons I hypothesize that much more proton fuel is 
available to supply the active fusion mechanism whatever it might turn out to 
be when sparks occur.

This may be a blind lead, but perhaps not.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: David Roberson <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Oct 4, 2013 7:13 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Some Interesting Calculations


I have been playing with math and wanted to share some interesting calculations 
that I have generated.  This work involves progress toward my search for a 
coupling mechanism which leads to a slow form of chain reaction based upon 
phonons or heat.  There are some interesting bits of data that have been 
uncovered, where some of the conclusions may seem obvious after the fact.  My 
current model is of a simple design and assumes that an ECAT like device uses 
100 grams of Nickel with a density of 8.908 grams per cubic centimeter.  I have 
assumed that each LENR reaction yields 5 MeV of energy but this can be adjusted 
freely to match any desired level.  Also, the diameter of the nickel spheres is 
adjustable with an initially assumed size of 10 micrometers.

The excess power generated by the modeled system is initially 10,000 watts and 
this can be adjusted freely.  Energy leaves the spheres through the surface 
area and therefore I have concentrated most of my effort on power per square 
centimeter behavior.  Rossi's device appears to operate at a level of 
approximately .150 watts per square centimeter which is not too excessive.

Calculations which assume .150 watts exiting each square centimeter show that 
the size of the spheres is inversely proportional to the power being generated. 
 In other words, a collection of spheres 10 micrometers in diameter should 
generate 1/10 the power released by a collection of spheres that are 1 
micrometer in diameter.   This particular model assumes a constant total mass 
of nickel of 100 grams and a type of reaction that occurs upon the surface of 
the spheres.  I am pursuing reactions that occur throughout the entire mass of 
the spheres as well, but this particular note is restricted to surface effects 
only.
 
It is interesting to see that each tiny reaction surface area can be broken 
into squares whose sides are approximately 100 atoms each which in this case 
calculates to be  26.2 nanometers per reaction per second.  This of course is 
the average value over all of the small spheres of an ECAT like device.  The 
calculated size throws a bone to the vorts that have strong feelings about nano 
plasmonics.

It would be interesting to obtain data concerning the excess power generated 
versus average size of the spheres of nickel.   If the power varies inversely 
with diameter then additional support will be shown that we are seeking a 
surface effect in this version of LENR.

I have interesting additional material to share at a latter date, and I feel 
that calculations of this nature might lead to important insights.

Dave

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