Here is a start.  Wikipedia has an article about time dilation and particles: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles In it is a 
description of an experiment by Frisch-Smith where they measured the travel 
time for muons of relatively high energy as they propagated over a distance of 
1907 meters.  They state that it takes these particles 6.4 microseconds to 
complete the journey according to clocks at rest on the Earth.  That means they 
are moving at a velocity of approximately .995 times c according to that 
observer.

I reversed the usual square root of (1 minus (v/c) squared) where v was equal 
to .995 times c to eventually calculate the effective velocity of the particle 
within its own reference frame.  The final calculation yields a speed of 
10.0125 times c.  This is the speed that the muon would think that it is 
traveling through a distance of 1907 meters that it could have measured just 
prior to it's immense acceleration due to the cosmic ray impact.  All observers 
at rest on the Earth would measure the distance as 1907 meters.

If you take the 1907 meters and divide it by the particle determined velocity 
of 10.0125 times c you get a travel time in its reference frame of .6349 
microseconds.  These muons are normally measured to decay with a half life of 
2.22 microseconds.  This half life allows a calculation of the number of muons 
remaining after any given amount of time so in this case you expect to see 563 
muons per hour at the beginning of the trip being reduced by a factor of e 
raised to the negative .6349/2.22 which is .75125.  The total should be 563 
times .75125 or 422.96 muons per hour.   The actual experiment yielded 412 
muons per hour.  The error bars are at plus and minus 10 %.

The muon appears to be moving at approximately 10 times c according to its 
internal clock, etc.  We all realize that an Earth bound observer sees it 
moving at .995 times c and that its apparent internal clock seems to be slowed 
down by the SR relationships.  This is an analogy to the spaceman that we are 
considering in the discussion.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 17, 2013 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Local Calculated Velocity of Space Ship



On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:57 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:


I am confident that the world he sees before him will appear warped by his 
velocity when he compares notes to other spacemen traveling at a different clip.


To compare notes, they will have to send him photons that are emitted from 
charged particles accelerated from pulsars and now in the TEv spectrum, so that 
he can detect them in the radio wave spectrum.  Generations of descendants of 
the pilots of the near-light-speed observer that he passed will have come and 
gone in a nanosecond for him as he listens to Steely Dan on his tape cassette 
player and eats freeze dried astronaut food.  His family and thousands of 
generations of their progeny will have passed away in a split second 6.022E23 
earth years ago, while he whacks the 100Mz onboard flight computer to get the 
green phosphor screen to come back on.


It is very interesting thought experiment.  He's trying to approach an 
asymptote, which is always a losing proposition for practical people.  Perhaps 
something on the planck scale is going to start getting in the way -- some 
fundamental constant is going to make it so that space is no longer continuous 
but is now big and blocky and no longer makes smooth flight possible.
 

The meson experiment confirms that this occurs as well if you view the world 
from its point of view.  Perhaps we should chew on that one next.




Can you elaborate?


Eric



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