You might also consider that this "stimulus"  would also produce cracks,
which I claim is the essential condition.
Right Ed. I think the effect is four-fold when proper stimulus is applied:
A) High Flux, B) High Loading, C) Facilitates NAE Formation (Nano-Cracks
and/or Sub-Nano Cavities and/or Complex Topology), D) Kick Starts the
Mechanism in a Novel Way.

D is the most speculative, based mostly on my own reading and, admittedly
limited, intuition.

Also, well stated Jones. MFMP is doing a great job and are open-source
pioneers.

Regards,
John


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

>  You know – these guys are discovering the myriad of relatively simple
> hints that will eventually add-up to success - and they have put into play
> an admirable R&D structure with minimal funds. Thumbs up for MFMP -
> regardless of ultimate success in LNER. They may also make a broader impact
> on how – in an organizational sense, we can tackle any important project
> which is budget-starved and relatively ignored by the mainstream.
>
>
>
> My guess would be that the same level of competence which these guys are
> showing in terms of taking good ideas to actually devices which accumulate
> good data - and doing it expediently – compared to a how the typical
> bureaucracy works (NASA, DOE etc) would be a factor of 10 more efficient
> and less costly.
>
>
>
> These guys are doing more with less, and therefore let’s put in a plug for
> them: if anyone here gets into the Christmas Spirit in a big way, say by
> the winning mega-million ticket, then send some loot their way …
>
>
>
> If there were a dozen of these MFMP projects underway now, and sharing
> data, the problem (opportunity) of LENR would be mostly solved next year.
>
>
>
> Jones
>
> *From:* H Veeder
>
>
>
> An analogy from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project:
>
> <<May 20, 2013. This video is to show how a capable system can do nothing
> without appropriate stimulus. By making a very controlled environment that
> has the right physical structures and hydrogen absorption may not create a
> useful effect. Heat alone is also likely not enough to achieve anything,
> what is needed is some form of stimulus or shock and establishing the means
> to "trigger" reactions is a key part of on-going work. Discussion on this
> is being developed here: bit.ly/15jyh2H >>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IR37Do7NlY#t=143<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7IR37Do7NlY%23t%3D143&h=xAQGZH2gkAQG5_dkKG2C0Trp21ZirR22WsQ-2Y_0XFKf_MQ&s=1>
>

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