Stefan,

 

Although you are talking about something different with Kim, your comment
brought to mind the possibility - that if one buys into a more general
version of neutron exchange, accepting the argument that nickel may be a
prime donor- and at the same time, there was good evidence that Ni-H gets
its gain from protons going to deuterium, then the neutron exchange
mechanism provides an alternate way to accomplish this, with less screening.

 

Hmm. sounds somewhat like a version of the Oppenheimer-Phillips effect where
the neutron is not stripped from the donor - so much as transferred via
tunneling to the approaching proton - thus eliminating the possibility of
free neutrons. (which are known to be absent). Spin could be a problem.

 

From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe 

 

Hi all,

 

Have you realized the connection between the Kalman paper and Kim et al's
optical theorem for LENR.

 

http://pinky.physics.purdue.edu/people/faculty/yekim/PhysRevC.55.801.pdf

 

 

Basically again the origin is that the Gamov factors doesn't describe the
measured reaction rates for low speed particles. Kim et all solve this by
assuming a screening by the electrons. Kalman does a Feynman

kind of approximation and get's that the electron "pushes" the particle in a
second order reaction. I strongly suspect that we have two way's of doing
the math on the same effect, but conceptually on the surface the means my
look different.

 

Now, what Kim is dong with math is to start off with something that fit's on
the paper, e.g. math that is tractable. We should know that what he finds is
evidence of collective behavior can raise the reaction rates for fusion. For
if his and his colleagues Theorem is applied to a few particle interaction,
then again the reaction rates are too low, one need a collective that is
constrained enough and free enough. This might mean that only during very
special circumstances the rates get's high enough to make a difference.

 

/Stefan

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Frank roarty <[email protected]> wrote:

Jones,

As always you are well said and open minded. 

Keep up the great work

Fran

 

From: Foks0904 . [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 9:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:More on the Kalman paper

 

Nice effort listing all the theories side by side Jones. Indeed it is quite
a smorgasbord, and the final theory will likely being some unpredicted
synthesis of two, three, or more. And that's only the main reaction pathway,
which we can then add secondary or tertiary pathways to that involve stuff
like hot fracto-fusion, Casmir cavitation, etc.

 

Regards,

John

 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

Here are a few further musings on this fine paper.

The electron assisted neutron exchange process is interesting for nickel
since the yield is almost 600 keV for each of the two see-saw isotopes. This
is on the high side of what can remain "gammaless". The downside is that
Ni61 is only 1+% of natural nickel, and it is required for all 3 exothermic
reactions. In practice this would probably limit the lifetime of the
reaction severely without some kind of enrichment.

The downside for Rossi - if this theory is correct, is that he blew it and
has little IP protection ... since essentially, in his filing, Rossi bet the
farm on Ni62 being the active isotope. However, it is unlikely that the
neutron exchange reaction is the only gainful reaction in any experiment, or
even a main reaction - and it  could be only contributory. It could be one
of a dozen pathways, any of which will reinforce the probability of others
in a synergetic way.

Here are a few of the most viable hypotheses for gain - well over a dozen of
them. But the most controversial suggestion is that these are not mutually
exclusive, and that several or even ALL  of them could be at work
simultaneously and contributory in a given experiment which has the
necessary components. There is not even a good candidate for "most likely"
IMHO.

*       The original theory of P&F applicable to palladium and deuterium,
involving fusion to helium or tritium caused by coherent electron effects
(screening)
*       Coulomb mediated reactions in general, including the deflation
fusion model of Horace Heffner.
*       The "hydrino" (fractional hydrogen) mechanism of Randell Mills.
*       The dense hydrogen or dense deuterium model, differentiated by Miley
and others as inverted Rydberg hydrogen or a DDL (deep Dirac layer).
*       The Storms mechanism for NiH, which envisions protons fusing to
deuterium via screening in a specific kind of NAE site, evolved from
"fractofusion.
*       The NASA effort (US 20110255645) suggests a method for producing
"heavy electrons" as a fusion catalyst (screening).
*       The Yeong Kim (Zubarev) proposal of a BEC Bose-Einstein Condensate
*       The Takahashi tetrahedral TSC model is similar to the BEC.
*       The beta decay/ ultracold neutron mechanism popularized by
Widom-Larsen which is similar to a Focardi/ Rossi/ Brillouin/ NASA
explanation.
*       Polariton catalysis in general - which is a theory involving
plasmons, surface phonons and photons. This is more of an "enabler" pathway.
*       Casimir dynamics, in general including a dynamical effect. This is
also an "enabler" pathway as are other geometry constraints.
*       Accelerated nuclear decay. Some experiments benefit from long-lived
but unstable isotopes like potassium-40.
*       RPF or reversible proton fusion, which is based on the strong force,
QCD and a transient state, the diproton, deriving energy from quark or gluon
mass.
*       The "nanomagnetism" ideas of Brian Ahern - which is a formative
theory involving magnons and cyclical phase change around the Curie point of
Ni.
*       Any combination or permutation of the above - since none of them is
mutually exclusive and most experiments cannot be defined by a single
hypothesis.

There are many more, especially variations and refinements. Pardon me if I
have overlooked your favorite, but this is a running effort and your
favorite may appear on the next list.

 

 

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