I'm aware of that history with Jones but BYU and UofU don't have a monopoly
on science by press conference.  I stand by my assertion that if the exact
same inter-institutional competition had led an Ivy League institution to
hold such a press conference, we'd probably be driving around CF powered
cars today.


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote:

> James, if you read further you will discover Fleischmann had no say in
> when and where the news conference was held. This was forced on them by the
> U of U that wanted to get credit. Fleischmann wanted to get better data
> before they went public but Jones forced his hand. If you want to blame
> someone, I suggest you focus on Jones.  Jones thought he had discovered a
> new phenomenon and he was trying to get credit, which  U of U did not want
> BYU to get. It turns out Jones discovered nothing except fractofusion, and
> then he spent his time trashing Fleischmann.
>
> Ed
>
> On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:06 PM, James Bowery wrote:
>
> I don't recall exactly Beaudette's breakdown of "assignment of blame" but
> I do recall being rather peeved that it was not admitted candidly by
> Beaudette that if Fleischmann had had the good sense to partner up with
> someone in the Ivy League (including CalTech and Stanford of course) or the
> University of Chicago, the exact same press conference could have been held
> and there would have been an immediate DoE crash program.
>
> Basically the degree system has defaulted into a peerage granting life
> patents of nobility -- and the royal bloodlines must be defended at all
> costs -- even millions dead as collateral damage.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> the quote about the 4 articles is in chapter one
>>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>> The first report came in 1989 (N. S. Lewis). It dismissed the Utah claim
>>> for anomalous power on grounds of faulty laboratory technique.
>>>
>>
>> Lewis, N.S., et al., Searches for low-temperature nuclear fusion of
>> deuterium in palladium. Nature (London), 1989. 340(6234): p. 525
>>
>> Well, it was more a report on Lewis' own work. It was a pretty good paper
>> except of the conclusion. I learned a lot from it. It had a lot of valid
>> information about what can go wrong with calorimetry. I can't upload it,
>> but I wrote about it here, and you can get the gist of it:
>>
>> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJhownaturer.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>  A second review was produced in 1991 (W. N. Hansen) that strongly
>>> supported the claim.
>>>
>>
>> Hansen, W.N. Report to the Utah State Fusion/Energy Council on the
>> Analysis of Selected Pons Fleischmann Calorimetric Data. in Second Annual
>> Conference on Cold Fusion, "The Science of Cold Fusion". 1991. Como, Italy:
>> Societa Italiana di Fisica, Bologna, Italy Y HansenWNreporttoth.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  An extensive review completed in 1992 (R. H. Wilson) was highly
>>> critical though not conclusive.
>>>
>>
>> Wilson, R.H., et al., Analysis of experiments on the calorimetry of
>> LiOD-D2O electrochemical cells. J. Electroanal. Chem., 1992. 332: p. 1
>>
>> Beaudette discussed this in detail in a chapter at the end of the book.
>>
>>
>> But it did recognize the existence of anomalous power, which carried the
>>> implication that the Lewis dismissal was mistaken. A fourth review was
>>> produced in 1994 (D. R. O. Morrison) which was itself unsatisfactory.
>>>
>>
>> I guess this refers to:
>>
>> Morrison, D.R.O., Comments on claims of excess enthalpy by Fleischmann
>> and Pons using simple cells made to boil. Phys. Lett. A, 1994. 185: p. 498
>>
>> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanreplytothe.pdf
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>
>

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