Alain, the phenomenon of LENR itself does not violate the laws of thermodynamics but some of the explanations do. Apparently, this is a problem that physicists have. Many of them do not understand or accept the laws of thermodynamics. Consequently, they waste a lot of time discussing ideas about LENR that have no relationship to reality.

Ed Storms
On Jan 4, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote:

that some people said LENR claims do violate laws of thermodynamic made me fall on my bottom...

it remind me the book of Beaudette about what he call skeptic (in fact deniers)
page 134 (164) in the box:

summation
Characteristics of the Scientific Skeptic
In general, skeptics display the following habits.
1. They do not express their criticism in those venues where it will be subject to peer review. 2. They do not go into the laboratory and practice the experiment along side the practitioner (as does the critic). 3. Assertions are offered as though they were scientifically based when they are merely guesses. 4. Questions are raised that concern matters outside of the boundaries of the claimed observation.
5. Satire, dismissal, and slander are freely employed.
6. When explanations are advanced for a possible source, ad hoc reasons are instantly presented for their rejection. These rejections often assert offhand that the explanation violates some physical conservation law. 7. Evidence raised in support of the claims is rejected outright if it does not answer every possible question. No intermediate steps to find a source are acceptable.

2014/1/4 <[email protected]>
Jed,

I think the phrase "low-energy nuclear reactions" must have been inspired
by current claims.  On p.5, under the "PROGRAM OVERVIEW", it states -

(Projects which)"Are not based on sound scientific principles (e.g.,
violates a law of thermodynamics)"

Most current LENR theories do not violate the conservation laws.
So, I believe they are eligible under these criteria.




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