http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/opinion/sunday/is-the-universe-a-simulation.html?_r=0
Our good friends bostrom, beane and savage are referenced. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <[email protected]>wrote: > > http://metaversetribune.com/2011/08/22/rosedale-makes-case-for-holographic-universe/ > > Rosedale was the founder of SecondLife. I frequently worked with the > physics engine in SL and I can confirm the marble / cup QM tunneling > analogy. > > Some choice quotes: > > - "Basically if you leave a marble in a cup in Second Life, and you > leave all night and you come back, what happens? The marble is gone." > - "If there was a hidden dimension [Holographic Principle - universe > as 2 dimensions] wrapped around our universe that contained all the data > for the atoms in our world, quantum entanglement starts to make more > sense." > - "The general agreement in quantum mechanics is that subatomic > particles like photons behave like waves until looked at by a conscious > observer .. Second Life, too, does not render until looked at by a > conscious observer, but the data always remains in that hidden dimension > outside the 3D virtual space. Just something to think about." > > > > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> >> http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/geekquinox/weird-science-weekly-may-living-holographic-projection-010534111.html >> >> Cool video - the idea that reality is just a projected hologram from a 2 >> dimensional surface at the boundaries of space. >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, John Berry <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> It is also possible the universe is just a dream, or a shared >>> hallucination. >>> >>> Maybe all our memories are manufactured and we have not been on this >>> earth and list for x number of years, we may only have implanted memories >>> and started 'fresh' this morning. >>> >>> Many far out and improbable things can be argued as possible, this sim >>> argument is no different. >>> >>> I am not going to take any of these ideas seriously since none of them >>> agree with the incredible detail and broadness of the world. >>> >>> It only distracts from understanding the world we are in. >>> >>> Now we could ask if consciousness comes from dis dimension, at least we >>> perceive consciousness to exist. As far as existential questions go that >>> one makes sense. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> From: Eric Walker >>>> >>>> Of course, the gamers are risking "exposure" now that >>>> A.I. >>>> is becoming >>>> closer to reality. A.I. may have developed a life >>>> (reality) >>>> of its own which >>>> clears up everything, and possibly within a few decades. >>>> >>>> I think whether the universe is a simulation is >>>> epistemologically inaccessible, unless things were to start to get >>>> really >>>> weird. >>>> >>>> The weirdness could easily be that there is both a "real" universe and >>>> many >>>> ongoing simulations, and especially simulations within simulations. >>>> Even if >>>> you find the "tell" at one level, you may only advance to the next Sim ! >>>> >>>> Whether the individual (us, for instance) can ever figure out multiple >>>> layering depends on many factors but could easily be impossible, as you >>>> say >>>> - since any the Sim can have a automatic mechanism for the untimely >>>> "demise" >>>> of a player who is digging too deep. Think Philip K. Dick. >>>> >>>> OTOH a few Sims, and maybe our own, could be structured as some kind of >>>> test >>>> the aim of which is to see how long it takes the subjects of the >>>> experiment >>>> (i.e. "the meat") to figure out that they are locked into a Sim. >>>> >>>> The "untimely demise" mechanism of a Sim is one reason why a large group >>>> effort would be preferable :-) >>>> >>>> At least the "tell" would then be the improbability of the disaster - >>>> such >>>> as that most of the Vortex News Group did not survive Thanksgiving due... >>>> due >>>> to... err... tainted turkey? >>>> >>>> Remember: the red pill is in the cranberries! >>>> >>>> Actually the Matrix films are an example of early house-of-mirrors >>>> layering >>>> since any movie is already a Sim on one level. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
