John said [snip] This tells us that the substance of the vacuum, the virtual 
particles are primarily entrained by the laboratory reference frame, so another 
way to do this would be to try and move the 'space' through a stationary 
mirror.[/snip]
John,  That may be the next step after we learn how to extract energy from the 
motion of this substance through our reactor to instead supply energy to these 
Rydberg atoms in such a way to push against this substance .. or as you say 
move space through a stationary target such as your mirror.
Fran


From: John Berry [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation impossibility

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Axil Axil 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Remember this one?

http://phys.org/news/2011-11-scientists-vacuum.html

Scientists create light from vacuum

The speed of light in a vacuum can be effected by EMF based influences such as 
magnetic fields, spin entanglement, and squeezing.


 The physicist Moore predicted way back in 1970 that this should happen if the 
virtual photons are allowed to bounce off a mirror that is moving at a speed 
that is almost as high as the speed of light.

That is interestingly at odds with SR, all mirrors are moving at near the speed 
of light relative to some reference frame, and if all reference frames are 
equal then it should not require the mirror to move and differently.

This indicates that the quantum particles aren't popping up with a random 
velocity relative to the Lab reference frame, but that they are relatively 
stationary relative to the Lab reference frame which requires the mirror to 
move.

This tells us that the substance of the vacuum, the virtual particles are 
primarily entrained by the laboratory reference frame, so another way to do 
this would be to try and move the 'space' through a stationary mirror.

 John

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