Magnetic field lines can be mapped using a compass. Iron-filings act like
miniature compass needles when sprinkled on paper covering a magnet.
Friction between the paper and an iron-filing ensures the iron-filing will
pivot like a compass needle. In zero-g the iron-filings would need to be
placed in a viscous suspension.
Harry




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:26 PM, MarkI-Zeropoint <[email protected]>wrote:

> U R welcome, ChemE!
>
> Does anyone know if the astronauts have ever done the magnet and
> iron-filings kind of thing while in zero-g???
>
> Anyone know of such an experiment done in a vacuum in 1g???
>
> Is my assumption valid that the mag-field lines would still be obvious...
> i.e., that this is possibly a physical manifestation of the polarization of
> the vacuum...
>
> -mi
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:07 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
>  Mark,
>
> That was a good paper, thanks for posting
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:04 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint < *[email protected]*>
> wrote:
> You might look at this paper as well; I&rsquo;ve mentioned it many moons
> ago.
>
> Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields, Xing-Hao Ye
> *http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2* 
> <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2><http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
>   <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
> Abstract <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
> The electric and magnetic fields are investigated on the basis of quantum
> vacuum. The analysis of the electromagnetic energy and force indicates that
> an electric field is a polarized distribution of the vacuum virtual
> dipoles, and that a magnetic field in vacuum is a rearrangement of the
> vacuum polarization. It means that an electromagnetic wave is a
> successional changing of the vacuum polarization in space. Also, it is
> found that the average half length of the virtual dipoles around an
> elementary charge is a=2.8 *10^(-15)m. The result leads to the step
> distribution of the field energy around an electron, the relation between
> the fine structure constant and the vacuum polarization distribution, and
> an extremely high energy density of the electromagnetic field.
> <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
>   <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
> Finally, <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
> Anyone who has seen the mag-field-lines in iron filings has to at least
> wonder if this is an obvious manifestation of the polarization discussed in
> the above paper&hellip; &lsquo;Fields&rsquo; are not just convenient
> mathematical constructs, but a real physical phenomenon which directly
> influences matter.  The scientist in me then wonders if the iron filings
> are following a polarization of atoms in the air???  But I would bet that
> you would see the same thing if done in a vacuum&hellip;
> <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
>   <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
> -Mark Iverson <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
>   <http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.1305v2>
> *From: *John Berry [mailto: *[email protected]*]
> *Sent: *Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:02 AM
> *To: **[email protected]*
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic inertia
>
> Yes, when beliefs are challenged, most scientists end up acting more like
> religious types.
>
> To explain my idea most simply, it is magnetic hysteresis like drag of
> space due to the speed of light limit.
>
> Only it requires acceleration.
>
> Secondly I have found scientific papers claim that the near-field around a
> dipole transmits instantaneously within the quarter wave length.
>
> I can find it if anyone is interested.
>
> John
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:51 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint < *[email protected]*>
> wrote:
> I don&rsquo;t know if your EM inertia is the same thing, but I mentioned
> previously that the concept of inertia being a kind of electromagnetic
> &lsquo;drag&rsquo; between accelerated matter and the vacuum of space was
> first derived/proposed by Haisch/Rueda many years ago&hellip;  I&rsquo;ve
> visited Dr. Rueda several times at his office, Cal State Long Beach, which
> is where I did my undergrad work&hellip;
> Their first paper on this topic was:
>        B. Haisch, A. Rueda and H.E. Puthoff, Phys. Rev A 48 (1994) 678
> It derived the formula for inertia, F=ma, from the zero-point field; F=ma
> was a fundamental equation not thought to be derivable.  Comments from the
> peer-reviewers went something like this:
> &ldquo;Well, I can&rsquo;t find any errors in your math, and the physics
> looks good&hellip; but it just can&rsquo;t be.&rdquo;
> Gee, that sure sounds like a scientist talking&hellip; NOT!
> It was Bernie Haisch&rsquo;s concept, but Dr. Rueda did all the
> math&hellip;  and take a look at the 1994 paper and you&rsquo;ll get some
> idea of just what kind of mathematician Rueda is&hellip; it&rsquo;s like
> 40+ pages of mostly equations.  Anyway, here&rsquo;s a reference for a
> followup paper they did in 2005:
>
> Gravity and the Quantum Vacuum Inertia Hypothesis
> Alfonso Rueda, Bernard Haisch
> (Submitted on 13 Apr 2005 (v1), last revised 15 Apr 2005 (this version,
> v3))
>   
> *http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0504061v3*<http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0504061v3><http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0504061v3>
>  This caught my eye when scanning the conclusions:
> <http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0504061v3>
> &ldquo;(7) An experimental prediction has been made that the mass of the
> resonant electromagnetic zero-point field modes within a cavity should add
> to the mass of the cavity structure.&rdquo;
> <http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0504061v3>
>  -Mark Iverson <http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0504061v3>
>   *From: **[email protected]*[mailto: *[email protected]*]
> *Sent: *Friday, March 14, 2014 7:44 PM
> *To: **[email protected]*
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic inertia
> I looked at this and came up with the source of electromagnetic inertia is
> the acceleration of an energy flow.
> *http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter7.html*<http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter7.html><http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter7.html>
>   <http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter7.html>
>
>

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