Yes - even if plausible way exists in QM for converting deuterium to hydrogen with gain, that gain obviously does not derive from the mass of the deuterium, per se.
This leaves these main possibilities, and a few others 1) vacuum energy (ZPE) 2) nickel mass via spin coupling 3) Mills version of redundant ground states It could be possible that all of these are entwined. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Blanton Axil wrote: They say that the data never lies; but wow, does LENR really get all or most of its energy from the vacuum? > I have always thought so. But, then, I have been a Puthoff fan-boy for ages. :-)
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