Dave, for those of us that believe zero point energy is the basis for the temperature anomalies then these mysteries take on direct correlation, the ability to tap the "motion" of virtual particles passing through our physical dimension to produce usable energy is only one step removed from using energy to push back against this same "motion" to produce an inertialess drive system.. I say inertialess and quote "motion" because the terms go through a Lorentzian translation of time and space, instead of spatial displacement to "increase" the rate of intersection between objects in our 3D ant farm with virtual particles traveling an axis 90 degrees from our physical ones we are dealing with types of geometric [casimiir /Vander Walls] suppression which "decreases" the virtual particle density in the suppressed regions formed by the geometry and therefore "slows" the rate of intersection to a value we consider "negative" from our macro/isotropic perspective. So instead of slowing time like the Paradox twin approaching C these "suppressed" gas atoms see us outside their suppressed regions slowing down like we perceive the Paradox twin..or from our perspective the gas atoms speed up/catalyze and radioactive decay is expedited for those suppressed - I also think there are "compressed" regions in the walls of these suppression zones where time is equally slowed down forming a balanced average equal to the isotropy we all experience such that we aren't getting something for nothing but rather just forming segregated regions that balance out, it is only the size and charge of the gas atoms that perform a Maxwellian demon like trick of showing an affinity for one region over the other that allows for these temperature and decay rate anomalies to occur. We already knew these segregated regions exist below the physical scale in the form of tiny wormholes in the chaotic foam but IMHO quantum geometry and London forces can tap some of this chaos into segregated regions large enough to break what we define as the isotropy and interact with physical mater in a useful, exploitable way.
Fran From: David Roberson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:anti-gravity Thanks for the link Steve. I am interesting in finding out more about this subject. For folks that suspect that there may be some truth to the stories about UFOs there must be some means of propulsion that is robust and capable of being operated by electricity. Perhaps Dr. Podkletnov has found a clue. Imagine how well an ECAT driving a thermoelectric generator that supplies the power to one of these advanced technologies might function. I am dreaming of future possibilities. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Steve High <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:anti-gravity Sheesh, Evgeny Podkletnov twenty years ago was spinning a superconducting disk at a high RPM. He noted a three percent loss of weight for objects placed above the disk. His work was pretty well documented as I recall although of course he lost his job at some Finnish university. This sounds like the same general effect although Podkletnov's effect seems orders of magnitude more robust. Here's an interview with American Antigravity (the best kind:-) ) I will try to dig up more info on this if anyone's interested. http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/space/eugene-podkletnov-on-antigravity.html Steve High On Apr 12, 2014, at 8:34 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This is an interesting subject about which I would like more information. I have read a couple of papers that suggest that a large current discharge through a superconductor can generate an apparent momentum kick to nearby objects but it is difficult to accept without plenty of skepticism. Does anyone on the vortex know of proof that any of the anti gravity systems actually function? Better yet, how many among the group believe that this is possible or have witnessed a demonstration? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Sat, Apr 12, 2014 3:01 pm Subject: [Vo]:anti-gravity http://www.nature.com/news/2001/010612/full/news010614-6.html Stiff challenge to spacetime A strong magnetic field can flatten space time by imposing a 1 dimensional character on the three dimensional vacuum by aligning the vacuum along straight intense magnetic field lines. What this effectively accomplishes is reduces the intensity of space warping imposed on spacetime by the concentration of matter as defined by general relativity. It follows that a strong magnetic field will reduce the gravity field that a mass imposes on spacetime (aka anti-gravity).

