Dave-- Also it has been my concept that the pair act like a -2 charge in an atom. The dipole interaction distance is fairly short compared to the 1/r associated with a bare charge. I also like to think of the attraction as a spin coupling effect not unlike the spin orbit force discussed in the following item: The mechanism is not described very well in this item however.
arXiv.org > nucl-ex > arXiv:1401.1593v1 Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:06 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance Dave asked: "The fact that a pair of electrons can work together even though they are repelled by the electric charge they possess leads me to wonder how they ever work as a pair." Just one more of the inconsistencies in modern fizzix dogma. If the electron/hole is modeled as a dipole-like oscillation, then the answer to your question Is very simple. two electron-oscillations 180 degrees out of phase will 'couple', and the complementary ends together will cancel what we call 'charge', the pair is free to move w/o being influenced by other charged entities in the lattice. -Mark From: David Roberson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance We have been discussing spin coupling as one element that might allow LENR to proceed without dangerous radiation emissions. And, it is well known that super conductive materials use Cooper pairs of electrons to operate. The fact that a pair of electrons can work together even though they are repelled by the electric charge they possess leads me to wonder how they ever work as a pair. The force of repulsion between two like charges varies as the square of the distance separating them according to the E field distribution. The closer they approach each other, the stronger is the repulsion. But magnetic near field effects vary as the third order with distance for two pole sources. If the electrons find a way to allow the magnetic attraction to be positive by for example having opposite spin, then is there a certain distance where the two forces balance out? If so, one might expect the two to actually become attracted to each other when closer approach occurs. So, does spin of an electron lead to a magnetic field that can actually allow a pair to become attracted at very close ranges? If the attraction possibility exists would it be demonstrated in a beam of electrons traveling within a vacuum? The relative velocity and hence temperature variation along the beam can be reduced significantly by adjusting the source and control electrodes. Another question that immediately comes to the table is whether or not pairs of electrons are the natural manner in which they exist within metals, etc. Do techniques exist that can prove that they are individuals under normal conditions or do we just make that assumption? Perhaps slightly elevated temperatures break apart the weak connection that exists between pairs or relatively small electromagnetic fields tear them apart under test conditions. One observation that appears valid is that electrons certainly occur in pairs around nuclei. Could that be their normal state of existence? Dave
