possible. I hope it. But they promised so much.
Better enjoy surprise or quietness.


2014-05-15 17:32 GMT+02:00 Brad Lowe <[email protected]>:

> My Defkalion confidence goes up and down like the tides.
>
> Has anyone asked Dr. Kim to explain his roll in testing the reactors--
> whose test equipment, number of runs, did he have access to the
> reactor, how many days, his confidence level, and what he can attest
> to publicly.
>
> It sounds like DGT wants to be able to use Kim's involvement  in the
> tests as a kind of product endorsement. Is Dr. Kim still working full
> time at Purdue and is he actively persuing LENR research? Surely,
> someone on this list can drop him an email and let him know his
> character is being questioned.
> https://www.physics.purdue.edu/people/faculty/yekim.shtml
>
> There may be an R6 Defkalion demo within 6 months. Peter Gluck says
> that MFMP may be invited to observe and measure.
> http://www.drboblog.com/dr-bob-transylvania/
>
> Jed, would you mind getting clarification from your sources to address
> Daniel's "claims"?
>
> - Brad
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:11 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > It appears that everyone that had anything to do with DGT will be
> tainted by
> > this unfortunate chapter in the book of cold fusion.  I admit that I had
> > great hopes for them despite the mounting evidence against their actually
> > having a functioning product.
> >
> > Perhaps future developments will be forthcoming that will salvage their
> > company reputation but that latest report suggests otherwise.  Is it
> time to
> > move on and be more discerning in the future regarding trust before
> careful
> > verification?
> >
> > This is a tough blow to accept.  Time for a stiff drink.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 3:24 pm
> > Subject: [Vo]:Sources: Kim did not examine Defkalion reactor
> >
> > Regarding Dr. Yeong E. Kim and his theory about Defkalion's reactor
> >
> > I have heard from two reliable sources that Kim based his theory papers
> on
> > information provided to him by Defkalion. Defkalion "would not let Kim
> get
> > close" to a reactor. One source says: "They only provided him with data
> that
> > they claimed was from experiments. Dr. Kim based all of his observations
> and
> > writings on what DKG provided."
> >
> > He did not perform his own measurements at all.
> >
> >
> > As I said, my sources say Kim was barred from accessing the machine. I
> guess
> > it is possible he never asked to take measurements, or he did not want
> to.
> > Either way, he looks bad.
> >
> > If he did not want to make measurements, that is irresponsible. If he is
> not
> > good at hands-on experiments he should have brought along a grad
> student. Or
> > he should have written in the paper: "This is based on data provided by
> > Defkalion. The author has not observed the machine in operation or taken
> any
> > data."
> >
> > If he did want to take measurements, but they refused to let him, he
> should
> > have packed his bags, gone home, and reported they are a bunch of frauds.
> >
> > - Jed
> >
>
>

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