Axil, I think you need to add ether or aether to your spell check
dictionary.

Either or both, but not neither or you end up with 'either' ;)


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:04 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> “*John, I agree this is an etheric effect and has the same difficulties
> M&M encountered trying to prove a spatial based ether.”*
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> *An in depth understanding of the LENR mechanism will show that LENR is an
> etheric effect. LENR implies non-locality.*
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> *Nonlocality*
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> *Definition: a direct influence of one object on another, distant object,
> contrary to our expectation that an object is influenced directly only by
> its immediate surroundings. *
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> *The accepted version of quantum mechanics assumes that all interaction is
> local. Science now believes that a particle cannot effect another at a
> distance since there is no either between the two distance particles to
> support their interaction.*
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> *But the LENR effect is carried on the either were the coordinated
> collective action of many particles effects other particles at a distance.*
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> *With the acceptance of LERN as real, the current understanding of quantum
> mechanics will need to be revised, the either will need to be accepted, and
> most of science will not like that at all.  *
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> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Roarty, Francis X <
> francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:
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>>  John, I agree this is an etheric effect and has the same difficulties
>> M&M encountered trying to prove a spatial based ether. IMHO Naudt’s paper
>> describing hydrinos as relativistic hydrogen holds a  key to much of this –
>>  and puts the fractional/shrinking hydrogen on a plane 90 degrees to our
>> spatial axis.. this is where M&M should have been seeking the ether in
>> parallel to the time axis not on a spatial axis. Likewise I posit larger
>> virtual particles are not denied access between Casimir boundries as
>> current theory holds but rather the space time between the surfaces is
>> twisted via negative equivalent acceleration such that they are able to fit
>> nicely at the cost of time dilation and Lorentzian contraction where the
>> universe appears from their perspective to slow down to a crawl in the same
>> manner we would perceive a spaceship achieving high fractions of C. I think
>> this is how COE is seemingly violated since it is stipulated that random
>> motion can not be exploited –instead of throwing reaction mass away from a
>> spaceship to decrease the interface rate between spaceship and ether
>> [windshield and rain /Haisch and Rueda] we are using the opposite case of
>> Casimir geometry that makes the space in the cavity appear larger so that
>> many more VP can pass thru the region  of this etheric axis [reversing  the
>> interaction rate between the physical and etheric axis from what Haisch and
>> Rueda posit with their analogy of  rainstorm and windshield]. This sudden
>> change/breach in isotropy is in opposition and trumps gravity – although
>> addition of forces[gravity and Casimir] would not violate COE I posit that
>> the normally unexploitable property of random motion can now occur because
>> one spatial axis is by definition required for Casimir geometry and there
>> are several routes to rectifying the motion such as ionic or molecular
>> state asymmetries.
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>> Fran
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>> BTW – reversed my previous theory above in that I now think the Haisch
>> Rueda analogy may be reducing the number of virtual particles passing thru
>> the spaceship/windshield which slows time from our perspective while
>> Casimir effect makes the stationary region in our frame look larger and
>> therby more vp pass thru accelerating/catalyzing what we pewrceive as
>> shrunken hydrogen.
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>> *From:* John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:54 AM
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real
>> upwards, to 35%
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>> Kevin, I can only assume you have misunderstood what I was saying.
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>> Earlier you said: Not even Pons & Fleischmann can lay claim to having
>> found the effect.
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>> Which sound to me something like "the great (not even) P&F can't claim
>> they definitively had a real effect, so Neither can Rossi be rightly
>> certian..."
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>> Which made it seem to me like maybe you thought that Rossi himself was
>> ignorant of if his effect was real or not.
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>> Maybe I misunderstood you, but the point I was making is that if there is
>> a real effect that Rossi is tapping into or not is unaffected entirely by
>> Rossi's knowledge or belief surrounding such.
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>> Personally I believe so-called cold fusion to be an aetheric effect, and
>> has the associated difficulties.
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>> I have not paid Rossi a great deal of attention, but moving monatomic
>> hydrogen gas through nickle powder sound like something that should have a
>> robust aetheric effect to me.
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>> But because I have low interest in wet and heat forms of FE/OU I have
>> insufficient study of Rossi to have drawn an independent opinion.
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>> But my opinion based on others study is that he is either an amazing
>> magician or has the real thing, and has little motive to be faking and has
>> an MO that is at odds with a con man.
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>> But my opinion of Rossi is meaningless.
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>> As is the randomness of quantum probabilities on the fact that
>> probability has nothing to do with Rossi having anything real or not.
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