Thanks Jones.  It's okay with me that I didn't find anything convincing.
 It was a rewarding challenge.  I will resume if I discover something I
think will work.  And I think you are correct about the value of null
results.  Those are things that have been ruled out.  I am happy to find
null results so many times in one way.  If I ever find anything convincing
after ruling out alternative explanations, I will be able to trust it.  I
was also happy to develop many automated methods of doing the research.

I did also use coils with many turns of cuprothal, nichrome, and constantan
(wrapped around a glass stirring rod).  Towards the end of my work, I used
a complex automated design in which I regulated the power going into both
cells through programming and switched the power supplies supplying power
to the control vs. the experimental cells on a fixed schedule.  Power
regulation is difficult with electrolysis because the resistance changes
throughout the experiment.  The programming adjusted for this every 5
seconds.  I thank you for all your helpful suggestions--particularly the
mixed metal oxide anodes.


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Jack,
>
>
>
> Sorry you got nothing to show from electrolysis - but it is sometimes
> helpful to report these negative results. Thanks for stepping forward with
> them now.
>
>
>
> There is value in null results when properly analyzed, and it can be of
> significant value when there is something positive to contrast them
> against. In the case of Ni-H, your results could actually narrow the
> possibilities and open up greater insight - when one considers Cravens
> results in contrast to yours. This assumes of course that both results are
> completely accurate for a particular parameter, and we look at the
> implications of the two types of experiments together. This seems to be the
> case here.
>
>
>
> For instance, if a modest magnetic field is required for gain (especially
> unpowered gain)– and a field intensity which is above a cutoff level is
> needed, such as Cravens provides, then electrolysis alone is not going to
> get us there unless the electrode is in the form of a coil of many turns -
> to increase the amp-turns and thereby the field intensity.
>
>
>
> Although there is a small field associated with the current flow of
> electrolysis, it is generally too low to meet any reasonable threshold. In
> contrast, samarium cobalt has substantial field, i.e. “maximum energy
> product” (BHmax) up to 32 megagauss-oersted (MGOe) with no current required
> - equivalent to nearly a Joule per mm^3. Note that Mizuno used thin nickel
> wire and many turns. He may not have realized the reason that it worked –
> but only that it did work.
>
>
>
> Secondly, a few of the many nickel alloys you tried are probably close to
> the proper combination of properties for gain, but perhaps do not meet
> another critical parameter – which is chemisorption.
>
>
>
> Chemisorption could be critical (almost certainly !) - and very small
> differences (such as 1-2% variance in the alloy ratio) could determine
> whether a particular nickel-copper alloy is active for chemisorption, or
> not. It is a feature of physical spacing. Even when the alloy absorbs
> protons instead of atoms, success could still depend on the alloy being
> active in a magnetic field of the proper intensity, and geometry. Note that
> pure Nickel is not chemisorbent at ambient but, Ni with 5% Pd is
> chemisorbent. Even pure Pd is not chemisorbent without some dopant.
>
>
>
> A new parameter which is showing up is “superparamagnetism”. Without it,
> there are no terabyte HDs – which is an interesting connection to another
> field. Superparamagnetism may open many doors of understanding in LENR.
>
>
>
> In short, if gain from Ni-H were simple to do – someone would have hit on
> the proper combination of parameters way back in the flurry of activity
> which happened between 1989 and 1993.
>
>
>
> Sadly, one problem for finding this holy grail may have been the tendency
> not to report negative results, which is exacerbated when one researcher is
> suspicious (or jealous) of positive results from another researcher in a
> similar experiment. In fact, prior to Cravens, most positive results were a
> bit more suspicious, since there were so many ways to err – most of which
> are eliminated in a side-by-side unpowered experiment.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jack Cole
>
>
>
> Hi Jones,
>
>
>
> I'm still around.  :)  I put my electrolysis experimentation on pause
> after doing something like 200 experiments with nothing to convince me I
> had found anything.  I had some hope for Brillouin Energy, but after all
> this time at SRI with no results reported, it gives me doubts about whether
> Godes had what he thought.  I decided not to pursue replicating his method
> until something more is released from him.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I'm not very hopeful for nickel-based electrolysis being able to
> produce LENR--at least nothing I have tried has convinced me.  There is a
> lot to convince me that false positives are easy to obtain when you are
> looking for lower levels of excess heating.  It needs to be the last
> conclusion you come to after considering alternatives and designing
> experiments to test the alternatives.  Time after time, the results of my
> follow up experiments supported the alternative explanation. I'm hoping the
> Rossi report comes out positive as the probability of a false positive at
> his previously-reported power levels would be nearly impossible to obtain.
>
>
>
> Just to summarize, I tried various materials (Nicrome, constantan,
> nitinol, thoriated tungsten, cuprothal, all of the above plated with
> nickel) and various types of triggering (AC, pulsed DC, alternating DC with
> pulsed AC, high frequency/high current AC alternating with DC, external
> heating, laser, permanent magnet, different electrolytes).  I tried slow
> loading over several days to a week at low current followed by active runs
> and attempts to trigger.  I tried prepping material in light acid followed
> by cleaning with acetone.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
>
> Jones Beene wrote:
>
> For the record - here is more background on LaNi5, which is looking
> more-and-more like the magic bullet for Ni-H thermal effects when combined
> with a magnetic field (this combination could be in order to reach a
> superparamagnetic state of self-resonance).
>
> http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/j100476a006
>
>
>
>

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