OK. Kevin, you obviously know more about physics than about
management/leadership. We had a talk about my subject not long ago.  It did
not go very well. I will take my chances in an area I am poorly prepared.
Reason I try is because I am confused. I haave some friends who told me
that state of matter is not very accurate. Their opinion is that it is an
infinite number of states.
First of all help me understand what is more accurate.
If my friends are correct, then We do not need o look for any new states.
Maybe it is worth finding out more about states of matter for reasons
beyond LENR and maybe to fully undrstand LENR an understanding of more hard
to describe/understand states is required.
The whole discussion about different theories is way too adament in my
opinion. It seems like if evry theory is having problems to be accepted by
a wide group of scientists. I think a more humble aproach where taking
pieces from all theories would propel the search for a solution forward
much faster than the attempt to disqualify othe theories while lifting ones
own up to theology level.. What I say is that there might be many forms of
LENR. They might be depending on which state of matter they are working
in.  So why not take the thoughts from Ed Storms, Dr. Mills, W&L, Axil,
Jones, etc. and search for the common denominators instead of the reason
one is better?
On Aug 5, 2014 10:38 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you look at the lower right hand diagram on that page, there are only 4
> sates of matter (traditionally):  solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.  Trying
> to shoehorn LENR theories into these 4 states so far has proven fruitless,
> although plasma is a state of matter that I simply do not understand.
>
> Is an arc a plasma?  My readings tell me:  sometimes.
>
> I am confident the final explanation of LENR is going to come from one of
> these obstinate states of matter (or perhaps 2 of them).
>
> Like relativity theory, it will seem obvious, simple, and yet
> mind-numbingly complex all at the same time.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  *From:* Kevin O'Malley
>>
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>> Currently we only have 5 known states of matter:
>>
>> Solid
>> Liquid
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>> Gas
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>> Plasma
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>> Bose-Einstein Condensate
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>>  It would make sense that something as unfathomable as LENR would occur
>> as the newest & least understood state of matter….Especially when plasma
>> might be involved, and the situation occurs in a very special case of
>> Condensed Matter Nuclear Physics. … Are there other states of matter
>> being postulated at this point?  Some of the Zero Point
>> Energy/Vaccuum/Aether stuff might apply, but it does not hold weight in
>> mainstream physics.
>>
>> Interesting point for LENR. One problem is that matter can be partly or
>> wholly in another dimension. In fact there is some evidence that electrons
>> exist partly in another dimension. If we limit the candidates to macro
>> reality (no subatomic species like pentaquarks etc.) then here are a few
>> more.
>>
>> Dark matter – which can be the same as ZPE, Aether
>>
>> Neutron matter – the stuff of neutron stars
>>
>> PS… after starting this list, it occurred to me that Wiki most likely
>> already has such a list, and indeed it can be found here
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_of_matter
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