Why would you say Levi knows what's in the cell?  They specifically say
they don't know in the report.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I don't find Levi to be credible!  I'm enthusiastic too and want to
> believe, but Levi was a very poor choice to be primary author on the paper.
>
> A scientist with a credible track record would be better than Darden, but
> Levi is not that scientist.
>
> The CEO of Elforsk, even  the Nasa scientist - these are credible folks.
>
> The reality is this paper, coming from Levi, seemed more like an attempt
> to prove that they he didn't screw up on the first one.   Hardly an
> unbiased source.
>
> It should have been different scientists.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Blaze Spinnaker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I read somewhere that 70% of all papers are not able to be replicated.
>>> Or something crazy like that.
>>>
>>
>> Where did you read that, and what sort of papers did it refer to? I
>> believe I have read that studies in sociology have poor replication rates.
>> That is not true of cold fusion. Many experiments have not been replicated,
>> but that is because no one has tried to replicate them.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Tom Darden's reptuation is far more valuable than Levi's.
>>>
>>
>> This makes no sense. The issue is scientific. A scientist is a better
>> judge of that than a businessman. Furthermore, hundreds of distinguished
>> scientists have published compelling proof that cold fusion is real. You
>> are moving your estimate by several percentage points in response to the
>> opinions of one businessman. Surely, with regard to a scientific subject,
>> the relative weight of peer-reviewed scientific papers by experts should be
>> a hundred times -- or a thousand times -- that of a businessman's opinion!
>> Those papers should be 99.9% of your evaluation, and Darden's opinion would
>> be 0.1%.
>>
>> If you wanted an evaluation of the flight performance of the Boeing
>> Dreamliner airplane, who would you ask? A businessman who invests in
>> aviation? Or a group of 200 experienced professional pilots who have
>> hundreds of hours experience flying the Dreamliner, and thousands of hours
>> flying other aircraft?
>>
>>
>> Also, Tom Darden knows what's inside the ecat.   He has complete,
>>> unfettered access.   The same can not be said for Levi.
>>>
>>
>> First, Levi knows what is in the cell. Second, this can be considered a
>> black box test. It makes no difference what is in the cell. The calorimetry
>> proves that whatever it is, it produces orders of magnitude more energy
>> than any chemical fuel, and it works at a high temperature, and high power.
>> So, if the effect can be controlled, it will not only be a practical source
>> of energy, it will be far better than any other sources. That is what
>> matters.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>

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