Mark--

My suggestion is that the physics of hot fusion like in the sun is not going to 
be very applicable to the understanding of LENR solid state systems where there 
are more than 2 or 3 particles connected in a coherent QM system.  It is my 
conclusion that with respect to doing detailed calculations of the details of 
LENR, it will be hapless.  The system is too complex.  Only the qualitative 
understanding of the basic parameters that effect QM system energy and angular 
momentum states will be possible.  

Empirical correlations of results of tests will come about and be pretty good 
predictors of the way various parameters (temperature, grain size, magnetic 
fields, resonant frequencies, heat conductivity, magnetic moments, electric 
fields, etc.) that can be measured affect heat production. 

Better theory of spin coupling and other forms of energy sharing in a coherent 
system will evolve and understanding of the empirical data will improve.  

The hot fusion modeling for few body systems will only be a minor player in the 
understanding of LENR.  The acceptance of instantaneous information sharing in 
the coherent system,  via the QM wave function or some other non-material 
construct, without speed of light delays, will become common theory to handle 
the instantaneous changes that occur in the coherent system to produce 
measurable responses or changes therein.    

A better relation between the QM parameter of spin for a system, its connection 
to the spin of individual particles and the relation of spin energy to rest 
mass that can be measured will be important.  Dynamic measurements of mass and 
spin in coherent systems are needed to feed the empirical understanding and 
energy coupling mechanisms.   

Maybe the so called quantum computer will be able to do complex system quantum 
mechanics. 

Hopefully this better explains my previous comment.

Bob Cook



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MarkI-ZeroPoint 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:coherent perfect absorption


  Hi Bob,

  I've been very busy for the last year and have not had the time to partake in 
the lively discussions in the Collective, and with the added publicity that 
vortex-l has had (thanks to Mark Gibbs and others) the quality of the 
discussions has definitely increased significantly. we've also lost some dear 
souls since LENR started heating up, and they are missed. L

   

  Thanks for chiming in. 

   

  Yes, I would agree that the size of the coherent system is an important key, 
and that that size would also dictate what kind of photons get absorbed vs 
which make it outside the bulk matter and into grad-student bulk matter!

   

  When you say, ". is not the answer to the cold fusion question.", are you 
saying that a LENR system doesn't involve coherency across many, many atoms 
length???  I did not get the impression that the referenced article was 
restricting it's hypothesis to two-body systems.

   

  -Mark

   

  From: Bob Cook [mailto:[email protected]] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:18 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:coherent perfect absorption

   

  Mark--

   

  The size of the coherent system is the key.  Many bodies share the 
distribution of energy and total coherent system energy changes.  Two body 
systems like that heretofore considered in hot fusion physics (and extended to 
all solid state physics by many) are not the answer to the cold fusion question 
in most cases IMHOI.

   

  Bob Cook

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: MarkI-ZeroPoint 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:35 PM

    Subject: [Vo]:coherent perfect absorption

     

    Just some food for Collective thought. as to why no dead grad students.

     

    "Perfect energy-feeding into strongly coupled systems and interferometric 
control of polariton absorption"

    http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nphys3106.html

     

    Abstract

    The ability to drive a system with an external input is a fundamental 
aspect of light-matter interaction. The key concept in many photonic 
applications is the 'critical coupling' condition1, 2: at criticality, all the 
energy fed to the system is dissipated within the system itself. Although this 
idea was crucial to enhance the efficiency of many devices, it was never 
considered in the context of systems operating in a non-perturbative regime. In 
this so-called strong-coupling regime, the matter and light degrees of freedom 
are mixed into dressed states, leading to new eigenstates called polaritons3, 
4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Here we demonstrate that the strong-coupling regime and 
the critical coupling condition can coexist; 

     

    [emphasis mine]

    >>>>        in such a strong critical coupling situation, all the incoming 
energy is converted into polaritons.  <<<<

     

    A general semiclassical theory reveals that such a situation corresponds to 
a special curve in the phase diagram of the coupled light-matter oscillators. 
In the case of a system with two radiating ports, the phenomenology shown is 
that of coherent perfect absorption (CPA; refs 11, 12), which is then naturally 
understood in the framework of critical coupling. Most importantly, we 
experimentally verify polaritonic CPA in a semiconductor-based 
intersubband-polariton photonic crystal resonator. This result opens new 
avenues in polariton physics, making it possible to control the pumping 
efficiency of a system independent of the energy exchange rate between the 
electromagnetic field and the material transition.

     

    -mark iverson

     

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