Dave-- In a month's time I have had about 75 Vortex-l emails sent to Junk mail by my hotmail system. It's not uncommon. I check junk mail routinely and have to make transfers to my inbox.
Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: David Roberson To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Greenhouse HotCat Thanks for the heads up Harry. I wonder if others on the list are seeing my new topics being sent to spam. The question that I am asking is whether or not there are clues to the behavior of the temperature and power output correlation from the latest HotCat tests revealed by greenhouse gas behavior of the Earth. The Earth is warmer than it should be according to normal black body radiation effects. We attribute the reason as being due to incoming visible light energy being converted into heat at the surface and atmosphere which is partially captured. Less radiation power is emitted into space than the temperature suggests for a grey body. Does the variation in the shape of the spectrum as the temperature increases effectively destroy the calibration established by the dummy HotCat run? Is there a simple way to take the error into account? Dave -----Original Message----- From: H Veeder <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Oct 16, 2014 11:58 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Greenhouse HotCat Dave, for some reason when you start a new thread your message appears in my spam folder. I am not sure what you are asking, but the Earth supposedly generates some heat too. I am not sure how much of this heat contributes to the global temperature. Harry On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: A thought occurred to me this morning concerning the temperature measurements and output power calculations from the latest HotCat testing. What if the same general type of effect is working in the CAT test that is revealed by the Earth and the greenhouse gas process? We assume that the Earth is pretty much in equilibrium where the power arriving from the sun is matching the power being radiated from our planet. The reason that we are not frozen at this time is because the radiation spectrum is modified by the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere which make our temperature a lot warmer than would be expected for a black body in open space. Perhaps something can be learned from this comparison and that is why I open it to discussion amount this group of knowlegible and diverse folks. One might initially ask if the calibration technique used during the testing of the HotCat would correct for the potential problems. Why would a calibration of the heat emitted within the IR region not hold to a reasonable degree at higher temperatures? Could the change in the shape of the spectrum result in a large error? Have mercy on the messenger. Dave
