Bob The most important item is the correlation between thermocouple reading and the Optris camera. This would allow calibration of the camera with internal temperature. A thermocouple on the outside of the reactor (maybe several on the outside) would allow a heat flux calculation through the alumina reactor vessel and hence at least a rough determination of excess power. Such a determination of heat flux would be important for the case when the electricity were turned off to determine stand alone power output.
If any of LENR energy were produced by radiation or particles not stopped by the reactor vessel, such energy would escape detection by the Lugano instruments. Neutrinos and low frequency RF could be such radiation. However, with exception of potentially Axil Axil and myself, this community seems to believe that undetected radiation is not present. I consider it may be present but at a low percentage of the total radiation produced. Until the actual energy production methods are understood, it will be hard to confirm with good accuracy the actual excess energy production. Bob Cook ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Higgins To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 7:04 AM Subject: [Vo]: Temperature Testing of an IH-like Alumina Reactor Since MFMP is building a replica of the IH reactor as shown in the Lugano test, one of the proposals I have made is to begin with a single-phase dummy reactor for primary purpose of gaining data on the temperature / convection behavior. I propose that the heater be capable of driving the alumina tube section between the insulating mounting ends to 1400C. The alumina apparatus could be outfitted with 8 thermocouples of type R, S, or B and the data from these gathered with an Omega DAQ. At the same time an Optris camera would be monitoring the setup in a manner similar to the Lugano report. This should provide supporting or refuting evidence in the thermometry of the Optris with an alumina tube. The thermocouples will have to be sealed from air in alumina and glued to the alumina reactor with a high alumina cement. Does anyone have experience with these thermocouple types at temperatures above 1000C? The single phase drive could be an 120VAC source with a >10A triac controller - it would be cheap because it is a resistive load. We would still need to assess input power. Probably could do that OK with a Kill-a-Watt meter (calibrated). If something better was available, it would certainly be used. The most important point is not the energy balance in this case, but the correlation between the thermocouple measurements and the Optris IR thermometry. Additionally, a coiled secondary heater could be placed on axis for "excess heat" simulation, controlled with a separate supply. I would be interested to hear if the Vortex community thinks this experiment would be valuable and if there are any other suggestions for a dummy test. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:36 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: ... Now if we can only settle the temperature and radiated power questions from the latest testing! Dave