Also, when running the command

csg_map --in traj.trr --out traj_cg.trr --cg mapping.xml

i get error " unknown option --in" and when I do it usual way i.e. csg_map
--top top.tpr --traj traj.trr --out out.trr I get the .trr file but it has
zero forces/no force information.



On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Sikandar Mashayak <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hey
>
> I may need a bit more explanation to understand last two points you make..
>
> *- csg_fmatch --trj traj.trr --force-trj traj_rerun_cg.trr (fill give*
> *error force)*
> *
> *
> *::-* will the output of this be .trr file with error forces or CG
> potential which reproduces error forces. Also I don't see the --force-trj
> option in help text/manual for csg_fmatch.
>
> *You could test whether you did it correct be using force-matching*
> *potentials as input for rerun -> error force should vanish*
> *
> *
> This point is not clear.
>
> thanks
> sikandar
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Victor Ruehle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey
>>
>> unless you change your basis set for cg force field (cut-off, add
>> interactions, etc) or add some bias to fit procedure (extension to
>> code needed), you will probably end up with identical potentials as
>> doing only force matching.
>>
>> However, technically  it can be done the following:
>> - csg_map --in traj.trr --out traj_cg.trr --cg mapping.xml (same for
>> conf.gro)
>> - prepare coarse-grained topolology with already known potentials
>> - mdrun -rerun traj_cg.trr   (trajectory will contain knowledge based
>> forces)
>> - csg_fmatch --trj traj.trr --force-trj traj_rerun_cg.trr (fill give
>> error force)
>>
>> You could test whether you did it correct be using force-matching
>> potentials as input for rerun -> error force should vanish
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> 2011/3/31 Sikandar Mashayak <[email protected]>:
>> > Hi
>> > Another similar situation I am thinking of is like follow ::
>> > 1. I have full atomistic trajectory and forces as a target system.
>> > 2. I want to Coarse-Grain and determine CG-CG potential. I also have
>> some
>> > knowledge what this CG-CG looks like and and insist on using this
>> > information. To do that I plan to do following.
>> > 3. Use this knowledge based ( so to call) CG-CG to perform MD-Rerun with
>> > full atomistic trajectories and get CG forces.
>> > 4.  Now compute the error in forces on CG site for full MD and CG
>> MD-rerun.
>> > 5. Use this error force as target force to do Force-Matching and get an
>> > estimate for CG-CG potential which reproduces this error.
>> > 6. Finally add this error CG potential to original (knowledge based)
>> > potential to get more accurate CG-CG potential.
>> >
>> > So the question I have is, how do I generate trajectories for just error
>> > forces. I mean , is there any way I use two gromacs trajectories and get
>> new
>> > trajectory with error force?
>> > thanks
>> > sikandar
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Sikandar Mashayak <
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> thanks victor, I will see how subtracting known parts and setting
>> interval
>> >> to the unknown range will work out.. i guess good starting point would
>> be
>> >> check this out with simple 12-6 LJ case...
>> >> ---
>> >> sikandar
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Victor Ruehle <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hmm, don't see any clean way how to do this with the current
>> >>> implementation. One might be able to subtract the known parts (which
>> >>> can be calculated using rerun) using --force-trj and setting the
>> >>> interval only to the unknown region. However this might lead to kinks
>> >>> due to interpolation effects at the crossing.
>> >>>
>> >>> The clean way would require extending the code.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2011/3/15 Sikandar Mashayak <[email protected]>:
>> >>> > Hey
>> >>> > I am thinking of a problem where I have some physical understanding
>> or
>> >>> > constraint for CG-CG potential that I want to parameterize. So that,
>> I
>> >>> > know
>> >>> > say from 0-r1 what is CG-CG potential values and want to determine
>> >>> > values
>> >>> > from r1-rcut.
>> >>> > Is there any way I can set up such Force Matching calculations in
>> >>> > Votca?
>> >>> > thanks
>> >>> > sikandar
>> >>> >
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