Thank you for this. Need a bit more reading then :)

Steven

W dniu piątek, 16 sierpnia 2013 17:09:19 UTC+1 użytkownik Christoph 
Junghans napisał:
>
> 2013/8/16  <[email protected] <javascript:>>: 
> > I also have a question regarding bonded parameters using IBI. The 
> initial 
> > guess of those distributions should be an outcome from g_angle -dihedral 
> > -dist or csg_boltzmann? They do differ quite significantly. Which tool 
> VOTCa 
> > uses during the iteration of dihedrals? 
> There is no initial guesses for the distributions! There are initial 
> potentials and target distributions don't mix them up. 
>
> Bonded IBI only working VOTCA 1.3-dev and as you can see from the 
> other thread on the mailing list, it is still experimental. The 
> iteration is done using csg_inverse with an additional mapping file. 
> At this point, VOTCA needs a target distributions with the 
> normalization like csg_stat produces it. (So no 1/r or 1/sin factor, 
> but the integral normalized to 1, this is subject to future changes.) 
> Additionally VOTCA needs an initial potential (log(distribution)+ 
> extrapolation). 
>
>
> > Steven 
> > 
> > W dniu piątek, 16 sierpnia 2013 01:21:55 UTC+1 użytkownik Christoph 
> Junghans 
> > napisał: 
> >> 
> >> 2013/8/15 Chandan Choudhury <[email protected]>: 
> >> > 
> >> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Christoph Junghans <
> [email protected]> 
> >> > wrote: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 2013/8/15 Chandan Choudhury <[email protected]>: 
> >> >> > Dear votca users, 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > The atomisitc trajectory produces a distribution of  AB bond in 
> the 
> >> >> > range 
> >> >> > from 0.44 to 0.45 nm. While the potential (input) is also 
> generated. 
> >> >> > This 
> >> >> > distribution and potential are generated using csg_stat and latter 
> >> >> > from 
> >> >> > both 
> >> >> > the plots, the bad sampled regions are removed. Kepping the range 
> >> >> > same. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Now, when I procede for iteration at step_001. The peak positon 
> for 
> >> >> > AB 
> >> >> > bond 
> >> >> > is off and the range is from 0.34 to 0.40.  My final aim is to 
> >> >> > converge 
> >> >> > both 
> >> >> > the distributions.  Thus using IBI. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Now problem what I encounter, is that if the min  and max in the 
> >> >> > cg.bonded 
> >> >> > is kept according to the atomistic distribution, then I miss out 
> the 
> >> >> > distribution in the iteration step (steep_001). 
> >> >> > When I decrease the min to 0.30 and increase the max to 0.54, I do 
> >> >> > find 
> >> >> > the 
> >> >> > AB distribution in step_001. But after that the following error is 
> >> >> > encountered: 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > working directory: 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> /data/home/chandan/Documents/votca/polycarbonate/trimer/new_mapping/iterate_bond/step_001'
>  
>
> >> >> > Running critical command 'mktemp 
> AB.bond.dist.tgt_extrapolated.XXXXX' 
> >> >> > Running subscript 'table_extrapolate.pl --function linear 
> --avgpoints 
> >> >> > 1 
> >> >> > --region leftright AB.bond.dist.tgt_smooth.OYNVr 
> >> >> > AB.bond.dist.tgt_extrapolated.4g5KN' (from tags table extrapolate) 
> >> >> > dir 
> >> >> > /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse 
> >> >> > Running subscript 'dist_adjust.plAB.bond.dist.tgt_extrapolated.4g5KN 
> >> >> > AB.bond.dist.tgt' (from tags dist adjust) dir 
> >> >> > /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse 
> >> >> > Running subscript 'update_ibi_pot.pl AB.bond.dist.tgt 
> >> >> > AB.bond.dist.new 
> >> >> > AB.bond.pot.cur AB.bond.dpot.pure_ibi' (from tags update ibi_pot) 
> dir 
> >> >> > /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse 
> >> >> > Running critical command 'sed -n s/.*cg_bonded\.\([^[:space:]]*\) 
> >> >> > .*/\1/p' 
> >> >> > Running subscript 'dpot_shift_bo.pl AB.bond.dpot.pure_ibi 
> >> >> > AB.bond.dpot.new' 
> >> >> > (from tags dpot shift_bonded) dir 
> >> >> > /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse 
> >> >> > No valid value found in AB.bond.dpot.pure_ibi at 
> >> >> > /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse/
> dpot_shift_bo.pl 
> >> >> > line 
> >> >> > 51. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Callstack: 
> >> >> > /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse/inverse.sh - 
> >> >> > linenumber 
> >> >> > 265 
> >> >> >     do_external - linenumber 171 in 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse/functions_common.sh 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse/update_ibi.sh 
> - 
> >> >> > linenumber 32 
> >> >> >             for_all - linenumber 17 (see 'csg_call --cat function 
> >> >> > for_all') 
> >> >> >                     do_external - linenumber 19 (see 'csg_call 
> --cat 
> >> >> > function do_external') 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse/update_ibi_single.sh 
> >> >> > - 
> >> >> > linenumber 42 
> >> >> >                             do_external - linenumber 22 (see 
> >> >> > 'csg_call 
> >> >> > --cat 
> >> >> > function do_external') 
> >> >> >                                 die - linenumber 2 (see 'csg_call 
> >> >> > --cat 
> >> >> > function die') 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> ###########################################################################################################################################################################
>  
>
> >> >> > # 
> >> >> > # 
> >> >> > # ERROR: 
> >> >> > # 
> >> >> > # do_external: subscript 
> >> >> > /opt/apps/votca/1.3-dev/share/votca/scripts/inverse/
> dpot_shift_bo.pl 
> >> >> > AB.bond.dpot.pure_ibi AB.bond.dpot.new (from tags dpot 
> shift_bonded) 
> >> >> > failed 
> >> >> > # 
> >> >> > # For details see the logfile 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> /data/home/chandan/Documents/votca/polycarbonate/trimer/new_mapping/iterate_bond/inverse.log
>  
>
> >> >> > # 
> >> >> > # 
> >> >> > # 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> ###########################################################################################################################################################################
>  
>
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > The AB.bond.dpot.pure_ibi contains 0 for all the values between 
> 0.3 
> >> >> > to 
> >> >> > 0.54. 
> >> >> > Can anyone guide me regarding this? 
> >> >> Strange! 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Can you send me AB.bond.dist.tgt AB.bond.dist.new AB.bond.pot.cur 
> from 
> >> >> that step? 
> >> >> 
> >> > Dear Christoph, 
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks for looking at it. Please find in the files in the attachment. 
> >> Ok, I got it! 
> >> 
> >> Your distribution don't overlap, then no IBI update can be calculated. 
> >> log (x/y) is only valid, if x and y are bigger 0. 
> >> 
> >> I am guessing your initial potential is too weak, try to make it 
> >> steeper around  0.44 to 0.45 nm. 
> >> 
> >> Christoph 
> >> > 
> >> > Chandan 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Christoph 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> > Chandan kumar Choudhury 
> >> >> > NCL, Pune 
> >> >> > INDIA 
> >> >> > 
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