2017-02-16 18:42 GMT-07:00 Joshua Moore <[email protected]>:
> Submitted pull request.  Let me know if I did everything right.  It's been
> awhile since I used git.
Thanks for the pull request, I just merged it.

Cheers,

Christoph

PS: I think you forgot to tell git your name, but that is something
for next time:
$ git config user.name "First Last"


>
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 5:47:50 PM UTC-5, Christoph Junghans
> wrote:
>>
>> 2017-02-16 14:50 GMT-07:00 Joshua Moore <[email protected]>:
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > By <scale>, do you mean post_update_options.scale  not the
>> > post_update_options.pressure.simple.scale?
>> I meant post_update_options.pressure.simple.scale.
>>
>> >
>> > Should the post_update_options.pressure.simple.scale  should always be
>> > some
>> > small number like 0.0003 in the SPC/E ibi_pressure example?
>> Yes, it should be a small number related to the compressibility for
>> the system, see:
>> <http://dx.doi.org/10.1140/epje/i2008-10413-5>
>>
>> >
>> > While the post_update_options.scale should be 1 for a single
>> > interaction, or
>> > the sum of these should sum to 1 for multiple interactions?
>> For multiple interactions it is not so clear, I usually split the
>> contribution amongst the different interactions.
>> However, if the number is small making it even smaller doesn't really
>> change much.
>>
>> Christoph
>> >
>> > Thanks again.
>> >
>> > Josh
>> >
>> > On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-5, Christoph Junghans
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 2017-02-16 13:51 GMT-07:00 Joshua Moore <[email protected]>:
>> >> > Good discussion.  I understand the pressure correction a little
>> >> > better
>> >> > now.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was doing
>> >> >
>> >> > A-A
>> >> >
>> >> > <do>1 0 0</do>
>> >> >
>> >> > B-B
>> >> >
>> >> > <do>0 1 0</do>
>> >> >
>> >> > A-B
>> >> >
>> >> > <do>0 0 1</do>
>> >> >
>> >> > And applying the total pressure to each interaction.  So that would
>> >> > work
>> >> > with 3 interactions?  If you had 4, could you do
>> >> >
>> >> > <do>0 0 0 1</do>  ??
>> >> Yes!
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Or you are saying, you could update them all in the same step, but
>> >> > just
>> >> > apply a scaling factor so that the total of all scale factors is 1?
>> >> The other option is to do <do>1</do> for all interaction, meaning do
>> >> pressure correction every step.
>> >> And adjust the scaling factor (i.e. <scale>XXX</scale>) to something
>> >> smaller.
>> >>
>> >> Christoph
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Josh
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 3:43:43 PM UTC-5, Christoph
>> >> > Junghans
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2017-02-16 13:29 GMT-07:00 Sikandar Mashayak <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Christoph Junghans
>> >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2017-02-16 13:05 GMT-07:00 Joshua Moore <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> > Hi Christoph,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks again.  I think I've implemented all your suggestions
>> >> >> >> > except
>> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "If you want to allow a pressure file per-interaction add
>> >> >> >> > <pressure_file> to <lammps> block inside the <non-bonded> block
>> >> >> >> > and use
>> >> >> >> > p_file="$(csg_get_interaction_property
>> >> >> >> > inverse.lammps.pressure_file)"
>> >> >> >> > "
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I will have to think about that one.  I think just a single
>> >> >> >> > pressure
>> >> >> >> > makes
>> >> >> >> > sense, no?
>> >> >> >> Multi-component pressure correction is bit tricky. You would need
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> contribution from each individual interaction.
>> >> >> >> The standard version of Gromacs cannot calculated that and hence
>> >> >> >> we
>> >> >> >> just use the total pressure.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Won't this cause extra counting/corrections to the multiple
>> >> >> > interactions,
>> >> >> > i.e., multiple pair potentials will be modified to correct the
>> >> >> > same
>> >> >> > pressure
>> >> >> > resulting in over corrections and hence, error.
>> >> >> You can use individual scaling factors (e.g. 0.25,0.5, 0.25) to
>> >> >> correct for that statically.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I think, either the pressure correction should be added to only
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > interaction for a given iteration or use partial pressures
>> >> >> > corresponding
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > each interaction to compute the pressure corrections.
>> >> >> I usually prefer the former approach, too, but it doesn't work very
>> >> >> well if one of the two species is underrepresented and hence you
>> >> >> correct for a pressure, which mostly comes from a different
>> >> >> interaction.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Christoph
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best,
>> >> >> > Sikandar
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You could also do a version where it fails back to total
>> >> >> >> pressure,
>> >> >> >> something like:
>> >> >> >>  p_file="$(csg_get_interaction_property --allow-empty
>> >> >> >> inverse.lammps.pressure_file)"
>> >> >> >> [[ -z ${p_file] ]] && p_file="$(csg_get_interaction_property
>> >> >> >> inverse.lammps.pressure_file)"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> One more thing, please add documentation for new xml options to
>> >> >> >> share/xml/csg_defaults.xml.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The other issue was a typo.  Thanks for suggesting that.  I had
>> >> >> >> > <post_update></post_update> in twice, the second time, with
>> >> >> >> > nothing
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > it,
>> >> >> >> > so think it overrides the previous block.  Seems to be updating
>> >> >> >> > now.
>> >> >> >> Good that you found it, I have seen that problem before!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Christoph
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I will do a pull request later today after a bit more testing,
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > think
>> >> >> >> > it's ok now.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Josh
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 1:46:29 PM UTC-5, Christoph
>> >> >> >> > Junghans
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> 2017-02-16 10:20 GMT-07:00 Joshua Moore <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> >> > Hi Christoph,
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I think I have it basically working now, but I might be
>> >> >> >> >> > having
>> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> > few
>> >> >> >> >> > issues.
>> >> >> >> >> > Here is what I did
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > 1) I created a calc_pressure_lammps.sh file as you
>> >> >> >> >> > suggested.
>> >> >> >> >> > It
>> >> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> >> > attached, but it is basically just calculating the average
>> >> >> >> >> > of a
>> >> >> >> >> > column
>> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> > pressures I've outputted from LAMMPS using awk and assigning
>> >> >> >> >> > this
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > p_new variable.  I have hard coded the name of the lammps
>> >> >> >> >> > file
>> >> >> >> >> > (called
>> >> >> >> >> > lammps.pressure), as I wasn't sure how this could be read
>> >> >> >> >> > into
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > script.
>> >> >> >> >> Nice, it looks very good!
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I would add an option to xml file in lammps block, e.g.
>> >> >> >> >> <cg>
>> >> >> >> >>   ...
>> >> >> >> >>   <inverse>
>> >> >> >> >>    <lammps>
>> >> >> >> >>       ...
>> >> >> >> >>       <traj>traj.dump</traj>
>> >> >> >> >>       ...
>> >> >> >> >>       <pressure_file>lammps.pressure</pressure_file>
>> >> >> >> >>     </lammps>
>> >> >> >> >>   </inverse>
>> >> >> >> >> </cg>
>> >> >> >> >> and then you can read its value inside the script using:
>> >> >> >> >> p_file="$(csg_get_property cg.inverse.lammps.pressure_file)"
>> >> >> >> >> If you want to allow a pressure file per-interaction add
>> >> >> >> >> <pressure_file> to <lammps> block inside the <non-bonded>
>> >> >> >> >> block
>> >> >> >> >> and use
>> >> >> >> >> p_file="$(csg_get_interaction_property
>> >> >> >> >> inverse.lammps.pressure_file)"
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In addition, I would check if the pressure file exists before
>> >> >> >> >> invoking
>> >> >> >> >> awk:
>> >> >> >> >> [[ -f ${p_file} ]] || die "${0##*/}: pressure file '${p_file}"
>> >> >> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> >> >> exist"
>> >> >> >> >> and check that awk actually ran correctly:
>> >> >> >> >> p_now=$(...) || die "${0##*/}: pressure averaging failed"
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> (Note "${0##*/}" is just the name of the script)
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > 2)
>> >> >> >> >> > Added "pressure lammps calc_pressure_lammps.sh" in csg_table
>> >> >> >> >> > below
>> >> >> >> >> > "pressure
>> >> >> >> >> > gromacs calc_pressure_gromacs.sh"
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > 3) Commented out in postupd_pressure.sh this line
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > #[[ $sim_prog != gromacs ]] && die "${0##*/}: pressure
>> >> >> >> >> > correction
>> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> > ${sim_prog} is not implemented yet!"
>> >> >> >> >> I would change it to that:
>> >> >> >> >> [[ $sim_prog != @(gromacs|lammps) ]] && die "${0##*/}:
>> >> >> >> >> pressure
>> >> >> >> >> correction for ${sim_prog} is not implemented yet!"
>> >> >> >> >> so that it only works for lammps and gromacs
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Can you do a pull request with these changes?
>> >> >> >> >> Details:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> <https://github.com/votca/csg/wiki/BugFix#for-users-contribute-a-bug-fix>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > 4) It seems to be running and the pressure appears to be
>> >> >> >> >> > improving.
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > have
>> >> >> >> >> > 3 bead types for the hexane example, and 3 interactions,
>> >> >> >> >> > A-A,
>> >> >> >> >> > B-B,
>> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> > A-B.
>> >> >> >> >> > VOTCA is only writing a A-A.pressure and a A-B.pressure
>> >> >> >> >> > file.
>> >> >> >> >> > It
>> >> >> >> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> >> >> > seem to be writing a B-B.pressure file, so I'm not sure if
>> >> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> >> > updating
>> >> >> >> >> > the B-B interaction??
>> >> >> >> >> That is a bit more tricky. I am guessing there is a typo in
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> xml
>> >> >> >> >> file, but I will look more in detail later.
>> >> >> >> >> I would look for the output and check:
>> >> >> >> >> - if the IBI update itself done for A-B
>> >> >> >> >> - if pressure is listed as a Post-update for the A-B
>> >> >> >> >> interaction
>> >> >> >> >> - check inverse.log if calc_pressure_lammps.sh is called for
>> >> >> >> >> A-B
>> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> all.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Christoph
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I am attaching the settings.xml file where I am calling for
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > pressure
>> >> >> >> >> > correction.  Can you take a look to see if it is defined
>> >> >> >> >> > correctly
>> >> >> >> >> > there?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > In the *tar.gz I am attaching my current version of the ibi
>> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> > LAMMPS
>> >> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> >> > real units and pressure correction.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks again for all your help.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Josh
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 11:05:47 AM UTC-5, Joshua
>> >> >> >> >> > Moore
>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Hello,
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It appears the pressure correction for LAMMPS is not
>> >> >> >> >> >> implemented.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I saw this post by Frank
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/votca/Jxsdz6v9QKw/OUVfYan8CwAJ
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It seems like in order to make it work, you would just have
>> >> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> feed
>> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> pressure from LAMMPS.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> What would be required for this?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Could I have LAMMPS output an average pressure, and then
>> >> >> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> >> >> could
>> >> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> >> fed
>> >> >> >> >> >> into pressure_cor_simple.pl as my $p_now=$ARGV[0]; ??
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> How does Gromacs do it?  Does Gromacs calculate an average
>> >> >> >> >> >> pressure
>> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> that is fed in as $ARGV[0] into the perl script?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Josh
>> >> >> >> >> >
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