On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Alexander Alexander
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Christoph.
>
> Finally my IBI (both bonded and nonbonded) is running know, but there is a
> problem and that is the very high temperature (around 11842 K) which I get
> by gmx energy over the ene.edr of each step while I use ref_t = 298.15 K in
> my .mdp file using sd integrator. More or less I am using the grompp.mdp
> file used in the tutorial examples.
> Here is a part of it:
> integrator               = sd
> tcoupl                   = no
> tc-grps                  = System
> tau_t                    = 1.0
> ref_t                    = 298.15
> Pcoupl                   = no
> pcoupltype               = isotropic
> tau_p                    = 0.5
> compressibility          = 4.5e-5
> ref_p                    = 1.0
> gen_vel                  = yes
> gen_temp                 = 298.15
> gen_seed                 = -1
>
> I do not know what exactly is going on.
Just a bunch on generic tips:
Run longer, try a smaller timestep, watch the simulation in VMD to see
if something looks strange.

>
>
> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 9:04:27 AM UTC-4, Christoph Junghans wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Alexander Alexander
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Thank you Christoph.
>> >
>> > The gmx_mpi mdrun crashed in the step_001, with the below error;
>> >
>> > Tabulated interaction of type 'Tab. Bonds' or 'Tab. Bonds NC' with index
>> > 0
>> > cannot be used because no table file whose name matched '_b0.xvg' was
>> > passed
>> > via the gmx mdrun -tableb command-line option.
>> Yeah, there was a bug in gromacs-5.1 and since then you need to
>> explicitly use "-tableb" in mdrun call.
>> Usually VOTCA adds that automatically except if you have done it
>> manually in settings xml file.
>> It seems, you mis-numbered the tables in your topol.top:
>> [ bonds ]
>> 1 2   8  0  1  ; 1:bond-LG-H:1
>> 2 3   8  1  1  ; 1:bond-H-L:1
>> 3 4   8  1  1  ; 1:bond-L-RG:1
>> says you need a table_b0.xvg and table_b1.xvg (4th column is the table
>> number - you using 0 and 1), but then you referring to table_b1.xvg,
>> table_b2.xvg and table_b3.xvg  in your settings.xml, so something is
>> wrong here.
>>
>> (See the hexane/ibi_all for tutorial for details)
>
> I see now, I was not familiar with the [ bond ] (type 8) in tabulated
> potential.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > But, it worked when I added "-tableb table_b0.xvg table_b1.xvg
>> > table_b2.xvg
>> > table_a0.xvg table_a1.xvg" to the gmx_mpi mdrun, I was surprised because
>> > it
>> > had thought the -tableb is kind of default when one intend to use
>> > tabulated
>> > potential calming in case.mdp file. (gromacs2018.1).
>> As you aren't referring to table_b0.xvg anywhere in your settings.xml
>> file, I am not sure where this table is coming from.
>>
>> >
>> > More questions;
>> >
>> > Similar to the normal atomistic simulation, I was wondering if the
>> > minimization and equalization are needed for IBI (bonded and nonbonded)
>> > prior to the sd simulation in each step?
>> VOTCA can do both, a minimization can be done before the main
>> simulation (see the spce/simplex/simple example).
>> For equalization, just set the <equi_time> in the xml file to
>> something bigger than 0 and VOTCA will skip these parts of the
>> simulation (similar to gmx's -b option)
>> But if you need one of the two options is system dependent.
>>
>> >
>> > By csg_map one can map the atomistic.trr to CG.xtc, what could be the
>> > usage
>> > of CG.txc in IBI (bonded and nonbonded) then?
>> E.g. if you want to calculate some other properties of the CG system
>> with gmx's tools, like diffusion constant.
>>
>> >
>> > Should the conf.gro used in IBI be correspond to the conf.gro used in
>> > the
>> > all atom simulation? To be clear, if the CG.gro  used in IBI must be
>> > exactly
>> > the one obtained by mapping the AA.gro and can not be bigger than that?
>> > Can
>> > we make the CG.gro obtained by mapping twice to use it in IBI?
>> Actually it is very common to scale up the system for IBI to get more
>> statistics.
>> And you don't have to use exactly the same starting configuration, but
>> you should use one which is equilibrated (which is the case for mapped
>> ones.)
>>
> You mean we can generate a new bigger CG-conf.gro using for example gmx
> insert-molecules, equilibrate it before any IBI. The equilibration should be
> performed in CG level? If so, then who? because we still do not have any
> good CG parameter for it to use them for equilibrating the scaled
> CG-conf.gro.
> Probably, we have to scale the system in atomistic level and equilibrate it
> still in atomistic level and then mappe the scaled-equilibrated.gro to have
> a CG-scaled-equilibrated.gro.
You are right as the potential changes, "equilibrated" might have been
the wrong word.
I meant an initial condition without atoms overlaps like the mapped one.
To build a bigger initial condition you can use e.g. "gmx genconf -nbox".

Christoph
>
> Best regards,
> Alex
>>
>> >
>> > In using gmx rdf, we usually compare a selection (-sel) like A with a
>> > reference (-ref) like B, and this means rdf_A_B.xvg might differ with
>> > the
>> > situation where we switch the reference and selection to have
>> > rdf_B_A.xvg.
>> > So, should we also consider this in for example csg_stat in setting,xml
>> > or
>> > map.xml? in other words, should we define both <nonbonded> A B
>> > </nonbonded>
>> > and <nonbonded> B A </nonbonded>?
>> Honestly, there is only one interaction between A and B, so why would
>> you calculate two RDFs?
>> Also the way csg_stat calculates RDFs is symmetric.
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks for your time in advance.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Alex
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 5:29:00 AM UTC-4, Christoph Junghans wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018, 09:31 Alexander Alexander <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am iterating over the both bonded and nonbonded interactions in my
>> >>> system using IBI. I also let program to guess all the initial
>> >>> potential in
>> >>> step_000. So, I do not need any external potential, but the program
>> >>> crashes
>> >>> in the step_001 requiring a table.xvg, I have attached my input files
>> >>> in a
>> >>> zip file, I would be so appreciated if you could have a look and help
>> >>> me
>> >>> overcome the problem.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I was wrong, the table.xvg is still needed even with gromacs-2016. So
>> >> just
>> >> create a table.xvg with all zeros as y columns (or copy one over from
>> >> one of
>> >> tutorials)
>> >>
>> >> See the gromacs manual on details for the table format of table.xvg!
>> >>
>> >> Christoph
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Alex
>> >>>
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