Hello Christoph,

Sorry for the incessant questioning.

I got the point that csg_inverse will do the extension automatically. But 
when I am using Boltzmann Inversion (not IBI) to get the bonded potential, 
then do I need to do the modifications (extending the range of the 
potential) manually by using the post-processing tools in VOTCA? Or can I 
use csg_inverse for simple Boltzmann Inversion also? 

Thank you.

Sanjeet

 

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:17:04 PM UTC-4 Christoph Junghans 
wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:24 AM Sanjeet Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Christoph,
> >
> > I would like to ask a follow-up question to this. Now, suppose I set my 
> min = 0.351 and max = 0.367, then I will be getting my potential in this 
> range. What if I want to extend my potential outside this range, Say for 
> example the range of my dist.tgt file. The range of my dist.tgt file is 
> 0.347465 to 0.371461. It's just that in the boundary regions of dist.tgt 
> file I don't have a proper sampling.
>
> csg_inverse would to the extension automatically, for manually 
> modification see:
>
> https://www.votca.org/csg/preparing.html?highlight=extrapolate#post-processing-of-the-potential
>
> Christoph
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:05:53 AM UTC-4 Christoph Junghans 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 6:30 PM Sanjeet Singh <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello Christoph,
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for your prompt response. But, I am not able to follow you 
> when you say "for csg_botlzmann it doesn't really matter".
> >> What I meant there was that csg_boltzmann will invert things either
> >> way, but what I would do is to pick min and max inside the peak of the
> >> distribution, so 0.351 and 0.367, as you suggested, should work.
> >>
> >> Christoph
> >>
> >> >
> >> > For example in my dist.tgt file here, I have initial data points as 
> follows:
> >> >
> >> > 0.347465 0.00833478
> >> > 0.347705 0.00833478
> >> > 0.347945 0.0166696
> >> > 0.348185 0
> >> > 0.348425 0.00833478
> >> >
> >> > Therefore, when I am using this dist.tgt file to get bonded potential 
> using Boltzmann Inversion I am setting the min at 0.348425 as before this I 
> am having a point with zero probability.
> >> >
> >> > Or if I set my min at the starting point 0.347465, then will this be 
> OK?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 6:30:42 PM UTC-4 Christoph Junghans 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 12:43 PM Sanjeet Singh <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hello Christoph,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have run a 1000 ns atomistic vacuum simulation to get bonded 
> distribution with exclusions obtained using the following command:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > csg_boltzmann --top topology.xml --cg mapping.xml --excl 
> exclusions.txt
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Then, I am getting my bonded distribution using the following 
> command:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > csg_boltzmann --top topology.xml --trj Trajectory2.dump --cg 
> PEO-10.xml --first-frame 500000 < boltzmann_cmds_dist
> >> >> >
> >> >> > After getting my bonded distribution I want to use Boltzmann 
> Inversion to get my bonded potential using the following command:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > csg_boltzmann --top topology.xml --trj Trajectory2.dump --cg 
> PEO-10.xml --first-frame 500000 < boltzmann_cmds
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, suppose I want to do the Boltzmann Inversion for a Bond-AB 
> for which I am using the boltzmann_cmds file with the following options:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > tab set T 300
> >> >> > tab set scale bond #SCALING IS NEEDED TO GET THE VOLUME NORMALIZED 
> DISTRIBUTION FUNCTION i.e. dividing the distribution by 4pir^2
> >> >> > tab set auto 0
> >> >> > tab set min ______
> >> >> > tab set max _____
> >> >> > tab set n 100
> >> >> > tab bond-AB.potential-file-100.ib *bond-AB*
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Then in the above lines, what should be the value of min and max?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am attaching the bonded distribution file for BOND-AB here, and 
> also the plot of BOND-AB distribution.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If I go by the BOND-AB distribution file, then maybe I can use min 
> = 0.348425, and max = 0.369061. As before this min and after the max value, 
> I have 0 probability for some bond length.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Or, should I select min and max from the plot of the distribution? 
> And select min = 0.351, and max = 0.367, i.e. the range where I have the 
> normal distribution in the plot.
> >> >> Short answer is for csg_botlzmann it doesn't really matter.
> >> >> However, for csg_inverse the min and max matter, so the boltzmann
> >> >> inversion from the target distribution (<name>.dist.tgt) is done
> >> >> correctly, if you don't provide an initial guess for the potential
> >> >> (<name>.pot.in)
> >> >>
> >> >> Christoph
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you. I would appreciate any advice you have for me.
> >> >> >
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