On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > jeff, if someone came in on _any_ IP address whose first octet is 192, we
> > don't want to talk to them.  wouldn't 255.0.0.0 be the correct thing to do?
> 
> Why don't you want to talk to them?  You're sure you don't want to talk
> to, say, hplb.hpl.hp.com (192.6.10.2)? Or adobe-dns.adobe.com
> (192.150.11.30)?
 
yes, i'm absolutely, positively fantstically, unequivocally, super-duper sure.
i don't even want to talk to support1.adobe.com (192.150.11.35).

in fact...

192.*.*.*  adapted from dr. suess
=================================
i would not talk to them here or there,
i would not talk to them anywhere.
i would not talk to them for spam,
i would not talk to them, sam-i-am.

i would not talk to them on a boat
i would not talk to them, even if they were a billy goat.
i would not talk to them in the rain,
i would not talk to them on a train.

not in the dark!  not in a tree!
not in a car!  i hope they let me be!

i do not like them in a box
i do not like them in a fox
i do not want to talk to them in a house
i do not want to talk to them in a mouse

i do not want to talk to them here or there
i do not want to talk to them anywhere?


i hope i convinced you i don't want to talk with *anyone* whose ip address
starts with 192.   i would go even farther -- i don't even want to talk to
anyone with an ip address of 19*.*.*.

did i forget to mention to you that i really don't want to talk to any ip
address that begins with 192?  :)

> > we use 192.168.0.* for the internal network, but that's a different
> > device, and we don't have any chains in use for that device.
> 
> The point would be to prevent spoofed packets from getting through your
> firewall on the wrong interface.  What was your purpose in denying
> 192.0.0.0?

why not?  if nobody comes a-knockin', nobody here wants to listen...

> A different approach (rather more controllable, but more tedious to
> setup) is to deny everything and then allow specific services or
> ip sources in.

that's what i plan to do.  it'll take awhile to compile the addresses, but
in the meantime...

pete 

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