Had I known the sh-t storm I was going to stir up, I'd have kept my fingers off the keyboard (But it has been funny nevertheless).
I'm still debating the build vs. buy. But I have done some research and think if I build I'll get a Athlon 1500 (fast and cheap). Now I've only got about 85 motherboards to look over. I tried star office a year ago, didn't like a number of things, maybe it's gotten better, at the time Netscape and monzilla sucked, didn't try Opera, I never tried Koffice, I was luke warm on gnumeric, going to look at Evolution, own vmware (but realized I do one thing on the server, I run xterm (from there I vim and admin), the rest of the time I'm using Office,IE,Outlook so why not use them natively and get eXceed), maybe I'll have to learn DocBook/XML/Tex/LaTex (someday, right now I'm climbing the Java hill, going thru the Sun tutorials, I know I'll just stop sleeping) I live in Chicago so can't do the face to face (though the thought of 3hr lines at O'hare, strip searches, gate delays, and the 4.5 hr flight is very attractive). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Hasbrouck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [vox-tech] Questions about building my own box > As a side note, keep an eye on star office. It > currrently (v6) is trying for that great office suite > position. I have yet to try it and see if if meets the > mark set by MS Office and such, but if it does or even > comes close, it'll worthy of your consideration. > > On another note, being the cheapskate I am, if you > have an ols system hanging around, like a PII or > Celeron 300+, Linux will make a dandy workstation. > > As was said in earlier messages, the AMD chip gives > you more bang for your buck. Intel is good, but you do > pay a premium for it. > > If you're looking for a system to not be too obsolete > in three to five years, buy the fastest thing you can > afford and fill it it RAM. That way, nearly anything > should run. If you are on a budget, take a look at > Rod's website. His prices are in line with anyone else > that'll build a custom system and support it. > > It you want to build it yourself, well let's say > that's one of my hobbies. That and doing it on the > cheap. I don't think I'm the only one in LUGOD that > builds their own either. I'm in the Sacramento area > and can make time to chat face to face over hardware, > etc. > > Marc > > --- Jay Strauss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Preface: I'm not starting a war, but.... > > > > I have my linux (HP, Sun et al) machines where I run > > Oracle, write my perl > > scripts, monkey with DBI/DBD/Mod_perl stuff, but I > > like the M$ Office suite, > > IE, and outlook. > > > > I don't love M$, but I like their above products. I > > tried to make the > > switch to a linux desktop but didn't like the apps. > > I promise you guys, if > > M$ ported Office, IE, and Outlook to *nix, you'd all > > be using them. > > > > Jay > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [vox-tech] Questions about building my > > own box > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hey now, chill out. It's entirely like that he did > > not know AMD made CPUs. > > > > You don't need to flame his for using outlook > > express (although it does > > suck), perhaps he is unable to get online under > > linux for some reason. > > > > Also, it's quite rude to accuse people of spam, if > > it was a spam attempt > > there likely would have been some mention of a > > 'great deal' or 'sale' > > > > On Wednesday, January 16 2002 03:34 pm, Takashi > > Ishihara wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 03:17:19PM -0600, Jay > > Strauss wrote: > > > > I'm thinking about building a new box, > > unfortunately I don't know > > > > anything about hardware > > > > > > How unreasonable ppl are these days. > > > Kids say the same thing. The difference btwn kids > > and this guy is > > > kids don't know the fact that they are idiot, and > > this guy at least know > > > that he does not know anything. > > > > > > And this guy is using wintel + outlook. > > > For this kind of person, the only convinsing > > factors are > > > 1. bigger is better. > > > 2. faster is better. > > > Go to fry's or compusa or wherever and ask the > > sales person. > > > They tell you the same. > > > > > > > I'm using www.spartantech.com (because they're > > out where I live), my > > > > first > > > > > > Does this line implies that you expect ppl on the > > mailing list to visit > > > aforementioned uri, browse their products, and > > configure the system for > > > you? Or was he hired by that company, and send > > this kind of ads to the > > > mailing lists? > > > > > > > choice it the chip: > > > > > > Sure you should stick w/ wintel + rambus. > > > > > > > I have to choose: > > > > socket 423 vs 478 > > > > > > Bigger is better. Naturally the answer would be > > 478. > > > > > > > bus speed 256 vs 512 > > > > > > Wider is better. Naturally the answer would be > > 512. > > > > > > > chip speed - I know what this is. > > > > > > Make sure to get the fastest one. > > > > > > > Is the 423 an older style than the 478? the 478 > > is less expensive, is > > > > that good? > > > > bus speed, how will that impact the system, is > > it worth the price? It > > > > seems I have have to buy the fastest chip in > > order to get the bigger bus > > > > (maybe it just doesn't make sense with a slower > > chip?) > > > > > > Newer ones are a bit more expensive in general, > > but you should get new > > > stuffs. Get the latest ones. They're faster and > > better. > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > Hi Jay, > > > so you're going to install xp on it, aren't you? > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > vox-tech mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > > > > - -- > > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the > > creation of this message. > > If you are using a Microsoft product to view it, > > BEWARE! - I'm not > > responsible for any harm you might encounter as a > > result. > > - -- > > PGP Public key at > > http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc > > It is also on the servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > > iD8DBQE8RhROEd9E83IXe8cRAtv6AJ0XoWlBVYoACInmSNbSVD1pGqS5TACaAnps > > wSmf0XowEymD0JrVeRiCuY0= > > =+8F9 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > vox-tech mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vox-tech mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! 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