On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 06:36:47PM -0700, Ryan wrote:
> in playing with things some more, I can't get nat to connect to ANY
> services on bob.......

  Cool, based on that last trace one or two things is happening:
- You have no process listing to UDP port 123 on nat
- Your firewall rules on nat are rejecting UDP traffic to port 123.

  The strace of ntpd would finalize the problem, but it looks like
you have a firewall rule filtering out the traffic.  ;)
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