On Mon 02 Jun 03, 3:16 PM, Gabriel Rosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 03:04:08PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > people with bleeding edge radeons can still use the cards, even with DRI > > support, using the firegl drivers, which are closed source ATI drivers. > > this means the 9700 too. > > I used the firegl drivers with my 9700 pro. They just plain suck. > They were poorly packaged, low quality (2D was slooooow) and have not been > updated since november (this may have changed recently, but i doubt it). yeah, i meant to mention this, but it was 2nd hand information from some friends i've made from hanging out on quake3 servers (kinda like IRC, but more fun). :)
> > what i don't know (if anyone knows, please speak up) is whether either > > the open source or proprietary radeon drivers will support ut2003 and > > doom3. last i heard, none of them do on linux. there was some gl > > function that was unsupported. john carmack offered to work with ATI to > > get the drivers up to speed to play doom3, but i don't know if anything > > came of this. > > I ran into some gl issues using the 9700 pro. I don't know if it's a card > problem or a driver problem, but I was not able to use an extension that works > fine on my gf4 4400 (GL_SHARED_PALLETE_EXT). wierd. i don't remember what the problem extension was, but i didn't think that was it. but in any event, i read on linuxgames.com that it was a driver issue, although that could also mean there's no hardware support so they need to do it in software, i suppose (hence, carmack's offer). i remember hearing that NVIDIA wants to open source their drivers, but there are snatches of GL code that they license which isn't releasable. i think joe arruda mentioned this awhile ago. if true, then i think nvidia can go a long way by separating out the closed source components and releasing everything else. i still feel pain when i think about the king of 3D and the white knight of open source getting bought out by nvidia. that was a wierd day; like a bad dream. like the day loki folded or kurt cobain died. the difference being, nobody saw 3dfx's demise coming... ;) pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D _______________________________________________ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
