On Fri 24 Sep 04, 1:44 PM, Mark K. Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > Mark, I think that is true. Window stacking is a function of the window > > manager. Determining which part of a window needs to be refreshed when it > > gets 'dirty', I think, is the responsibility of the wm. > > A window can request to the window manager for various things. Like where > to be placed when it first comes up. So there's *some* facility for > communication. > > > Also, my gimp doesn't bring the window to the foreground when I take a > > screenshot. > > Got me curious I booted up Linux, and you're right -- it doesn't bring the > window up. xv doesn't either. GIMP does bring window to the front under > Windows but I guess that doesn't mean anything here. > > Try this instead: Fire up xmms, shuffle it to the back. Right-click on > the program and it'll pop up a menu. From [Options], select "Always on > Top". That'll bring the program to the front even if it's in the back. > > So there seems to be *some* facility for programs to request some sort of > shuffling to the window manager. XMMS even knows how to move itself and > detect screen edges, functions you'd think are only available to the > window manger. It's doing it *somehow* in some generic X way without > angering the window manager. I don't program X directly (not really, > anyway) so I couldn't tell you how that happens, though. > > > But even if it did, how do you know that the request was made to > > X and not the window manager? > > It would have to go through the window manager. I didn't say it didn't. > > > Maybe it sends signals to the window manager > > via X. > > Which is what Jonathan was looking for -- a non-WM-specific way to bring a > window to the front. Something that works with ALL window managers (or at > least the nicely behaving ones) that isn't E-specific or KDE-specific or > whatever. He doesn't care if the request goes through the window manager > or not. > > -Mark
Yeah - I was thinking that it was a general mechanism for IPC rather than a "low level xlib call". I thought you were advocating that there was a specific xlib call for window stacking, which I didn't think was right. Seems like that would be achived by a general IPC method. However, it looks like I was *completely* wrong. Jon, your xlib calls are: XRaiseWindow(Display *display, Window w); XLowerWindow(Display *display, Window w); Pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D _______________________________________________ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
