Hi guys ! I've been folowing the project and using it on some wireless comunities ( we created adesign merging OSPF trunk wifi networks with a OLSR/BATMAN mesh network over it using openvpn ). I've been looking at the future of wraps on pcengines and I saw that they are going to create a cheap product using ARM9. As it's the same hardware on nokia N800 I can help on porting voyage to this architecture ( we have a ARMEL 512Mbyte 600Gbyte server to compile with debian-armel and maemo-armel ).
Ramon En/na Solomon Asare ha escrit: > Hi All, > it looks like there are some good news after all. > According to: http://www.pcengines.ch/wrapeol.htm > cheaper alternatives are on the way. Grapevine > suggests $60. > > I hope it will not be too long. > > Regards, > solo. > > --- Kim-man 'Punky' TSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hi Matt, >> >> Yes, I have the same thought. Over the weekend, I >> have tried out OE and >> here is my initial findings: >> >> - Multi-arch build is easy, as it builds from >> scratch, even the >> cross-compile toolchain. >> - It has to build *everything* and requires a lot of >> CPU and diskspace >> in my build machine (remember I used uml for all >> voyage development?). >> I am now thinking of buying a new build machine - >> may be a older version >> Mac Mini. >> - The wireless part (hostapd, madwifi-modules) seems >> to be un-maintained >> - needs few more hacks to get it build as there are >> inter-dependency at >> build time (same problem in debian as well, but >> someone had solved it). >> - customized kernel-build needs more investigation - >> seems not straight >> forward. >> >> My investigation does not necessary mean Voyage will >> switch to OE >> platform. It will only be a new thing. Voyage will >> still be offered as >> free software as it is today and ties to Debian. It >> is not going to change. >> >> Regards, >> Punky >> >> Matthias Lemke wrote: >> >>> then should "open embedded" be the first choice... >>> >>> regards >>> >>> >>> Kim-man 'Punky' TSE schrieb: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Solomon, >>>> >>>> I seems impossible to get a lower price x86-based >>>> >> embedded board. >> >>>> Other non-x86 embedded boards in MIP, ARM or >>>> >> XScale architecture does >> >>>> not have enough flash size for storing the >>>> >> disk-space hungry Debian. >> >>>> With squashfs+unionfs we've seen in Live CD, we >>>> >> can't have a distro >> >>>> lower than ~30MB. Even with squashfs with lzma >>>> >> support, it also can't >> >>>> lower than 25MB. >>>> >>>> If Voyage is going to support non-x86 borads, it >>>> >> will not be Debian >> >>>> anymore, and it can't be called Voyage either, as >>>> >> Voyage Linux implies >> >>>> Debian-based distro. >>>> Regards, >>>> Punky >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Solomon Asare wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I use lots of mikrotik products myself and they >>>>> >> are >> >>>>> excellent if all you need is a wireless/router >>>>> >> without >> >>>>> any special/unique customisation that you may >>>>> >> want to >> >>>>> roll out yourself. And the 112 is competitively >>>>> priced. >>>>> >>>>> A licence upgrade, if required, after expiration >>>>> >> of >> >>>>> the one your 112 board came with, will set you >>>>> >> back by >> >>>>> about $40 at a latter date. >>>>> >>>>> Moreover, my competitors are also using Mikrotik >>>>> >> or >> >>>>> cheaper alternatives and I was wondering if, >>>>> >> with a >> >>>>> cheaper mboard + flash + memory and voyage, I >>>>> >> can put >> >>>>> together a radio more competitively. I am almost >>>>> >> at >> >>>>> the point where I may have to give the radio out >>>>> >> and >> >>>>> make money on monthly bandwidth charges which >>>>> >> are not >> >>>>> much. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> solomon. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- Andrew Niemantsverdriet >>>>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Check out the routerboard 112. It has board >>>>>> >> memory >> >>>>>> and flash for $99. My >>>>>> research and development budget ran out for >>>>>> >> this >> >>>>>> quater otherwise I would >>>>>> get one and see what can be done with it. >>>>>> >> Anyway >> >>>>>> here is a link: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.routerboard.com/prices.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Has anybody used these? Do they work? The >>>>>> >> cheapest I >> >>>>>> can build a wrap is >>>>>> $127 not including a radio or enclosure. And >>>>>> >> that is >> >>>>>> in quantiy 10. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will be interested to hear of others if there >>>>>> >> are >> >>>>>> any. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> to make voyage more attractive as a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Wireless/Router OS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess we need a cheaper embedded >>>>>>> >> motherboard. >> >>>>>>> Please, does anyone have any suggestions apart >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> from >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> WRAP? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it possible to get say a ($60 - $80) board >>>>>>> >> + >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> memory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> + flash that can support a client? Pentium 200 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> should >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> be more than adequate. Any links? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>> solomon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Voyage-linux mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >> http://list.voyage.hk/mailman/listinfo/voyage-linux >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- >> Regards, >> Punky >> >> P U N K N ! X . c o m >> Technology + Lifestyle >> (http://www.punknix.com) >> >> V O Y A G E . H K - http://www.voyage.hk >> Linux - voyage-0.2 is released! >> Store - New Senao NMP-8601 and NMP-8602 (100mW) in >> stock! >> - New low price for Senao NMP-8602 Plus >> (400mW)! >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Voyage-linux mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.voyage.hk/mailman/listinfo/voyage-linux > _______________________________________________ Voyage-linux mailing list [email protected] http://list.voyage.hk/mailman/listinfo/voyage-linux
