> Hello Chris
>
> On 09-Apr-99, you wrote:
>
> >
> >> First: I am not the only one having this problem with an 060 board
> >
> > I have a Blizzard A1200 060 board and a Cyberstorm 060 PPC
> card and have no
> > problems with Voyager crashing.
>
> Good for you. I don't remember saying everyone with Blizzard
> 060 boards are
> having problems though.
>
> > Indeed, Voyager crashing is barely mentioned on the
> NetConnect mailing list
> > and many of these users are a) A1200 users and b) own an 060 board.
>
> I only quoted my main point of contact, Holger, the NC-supporter for
> haage&partner.
There are lots of people with various types of 060 boards now using Voyager.
Do you have any hacks in your startup? Usually THIS is the cause of crashing
problems rather than apps that work for everyone else but you. Have you
thoroughly investigated this? Are you running MCP for instance? What
datatypes are you using? Have you upgraded your math libs? If so, reinstall
the original ones. What version of datatypes library? Do you also use
Cybergfx or Picasso software? Why not work to FIX the problem instaed of
looking for a way to get out of one fire and into another?
> >> Second: Ollie seems to have the opinion that Haage &
> Partner or Active should solve problems with the netconnect package, since
he
>> gets less money from the netconnect license than he gets from selling his
>> software through vapor seperately.
Funny that I have never seen that attitude and have been using Vapor
products since the first versions were out a few years ago now.
> > Hm? I've not had an email from you personally, nor an email on the
> > NetConnect mailing list.
>
> Did I ever say you did?
When you "drop names", people whose name gets dropped have a right to defend
themselves.
> Again, this was a quote from Holger, the haage&partner
> supports person. Should
> anyone care to read it, I could forward it to the list, but
> it is in german of
> course. Holger also states in his reply to me, that ollie is
> ignoring any
> questions he (Holger) asks him about my keyfile. I can only go by the
> information I get. My mails to Vapor go unanswered, my mails
> to Ollie don't
> arrive at his mail-box, or so he says, the only one answering
> my mails is Holger.
It is extremely POOR MANNERS to quote/post email. You might find no one
sending you email if you are going to Tim Rue them with it.
> > We have the same software that is supplied to keyfile
> users: ie. Olli does
> > not code 'separate' versions. He simply compiles a
> 'NetConnect' version of
> > the same software.
>
> This being the case, why is the NetConnect version a "mixed
> version" for all
> processors, whereas the normal version consists of a seperate
> .00 and a
> seperate .30 +fpu version? Why have they different functions
> (CManager support
> for bookmarks)? Why are the versions different in size? Why
> does one function
> work and the other function doesn't in certain cases?
The 030 version only works under specific circumstances (like with my
A3000/25mhz 68030/68881)
> > It's certainly the first person I have heard from that has
> had a problem
> > like this. I have a Blizzard 060 based A1200, it works fine..
>
> I already commented on this, see above.
But you have not answered the question either. How many people do YOU know
using 060's and Voyager without problems? Wouldn't that indicate a bad
set-up on your end?
> Still, no-one has answered the question if I can get a
> keyfile for the version
> that is working, so that I won't have to struggle with a demo
> version or a
> crash version anymore. Surely this isn't to much to ask?
I hope not! I would object strenuously. I paid more money than you to get
the separate versions I have registered. If you want separate versions, pay
the same thing I did! I payed separately for AmTelnet, AmIRC, AmFTP,
Voyager, AmTALK, and CManager. Feel free to do the same at the same price I
payed for all of them.
> I have contacted Markus Nerding about this though, the
> managing director of
> Haage & Partner. IMHO this should be just as good as
> contacting the managing
> director of Active.
Make sure you remove any hacks, wimpy versions of libraries that you have
"updated" from aminet, any "updated" math libraries that didn't come with
the 060 board or in the original C= installation, and duplicate datatypes
that may be interfering with each other, and old datatypes that may be
causing a general system problem, and make sure you have Cybergfx or Picasso
set up properly (if you use either of these).
Marcus or no one else should be asked to solve a problem until you know it
isn't your system. And I would almost be willing to bet that you will find
the culprit somewhere in your startup sequence or in your workbench startup
drawer or in some lame library or datatype you have 'upgraded' to.
Gary Peake
Team AMIGA
OwlNet.Net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
