----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Sealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 1:39 PM
Subject: [voyager] Re: tabs for voyager?
>
> Hello Michael
>
> On 25-Dec-00, you wrote:
>
> >
> > well, ibrowse does it - but not perfect.
> >
> > do you know "netcaptor"? (www.netcaptor.com)
>
> I think David mentioned it a while back. Then we all mentioned
> that they have patent pending on that technique (look at the
> small print on the site ;)
Must be trying to scare people off. Do you really think they could enforce
a patent on a tabbed interface? How many places and how long has that been
implemented by so many programs and OS's?
> > it usage of tabs instead of separate windows is perfect. is there any
> > plan to support this in voyager in a later release?
>
> Do people really want this? I think it's a terrible way to browse, and
> having Javascript popups open a whole new tab, or take focus.. ugh..
JS popups don't necessarily have to open a whole new tab, and if they do you
could limit them from taking focus. Then right click on the tab and close
it without ever having to see the stupid popup! I think that's cool.
It's not necessarily a bad way for everyone to browse. Some prefer to
browse in a more parallel fashion than linear. Different browsers have
different ways of accomodating this. Opera has the groups of multiple
windows thing (forget what they call it) there are some tabbed interfaces
(IB, netcaptor, etc.) and some other programs make good use of the tabbed
interface like PIRCH. Having 10 channels open and shuffling windows is a
nightmare, the tabs make multi-channel irc'ing easy. (I like the way the
label changes color if someone posts in a channel.)
> NetCaptor is a terrible terrible idea, IMO IBrowse just implements
> a shitty idea in a shitty way.
I agree that IBrowse implementation is not as good, but just because it's
not your preference dosen't make it a shitty idea. I've used netcaptor on a
slow connection with great success, by sending link clicks to another tab
and continuing on the page I was reading. If you keep an eye on the tab you
can see when the page is finally loaded (this was IB shortcoming, I believe)
and then look at the page once it's loaded. When used properly it's almost
like an intelligent look ahead cache (except the intelligence is behind the
keyboard) :)
> Besides, you watch how it'd start some kind of browser war! I'd
> rather not have a load of idiots fighting over who had what
> feature first.. it's bad enough with every other product we have
> to use..
I thought we had gotten over that. If someone hasn't I'll tell them to
shuddap and use what works for THEM. Featurefirst claims get dumped to NIL:
Who cares about that if both packages CURRENTLY have the feature? That's
just marketing BS, and if the users are spouting it, they probably need to
get a life. :)
Chris
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