I thought of a solution, but it a purely technological one that ignores any
business relationship details, as they are above my pay grade: if VPP were
part of the EPEL distribution rather than directly part of RHEL/CentOS,
then there would be no problems!

Burt

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Thomas F Herbert <therb...@redhat.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On 09/25/2017 05:02 AM, Marco Varlese wrote:
>
> Thanks for the thorough explanation Klement!Based on that, I think (2) is 
> still the better option for the current situation...
>
> Tom, how would that sound to you?
>
>
> "Klement Sekera -X (ksekera - PANTHEON TECHNOLOGIES at Cisco)" 
> <ksek...@cisco.com> <ksek...@cisco.com> 09/25/17 10:40 AM >>>
>
> Quoting Marco Varlese (2017-09-25 10:26:50)
>
> Hi Klement,
>
>
> "Klement Sekera -X (ksekera - PANTHEON TECHNOLOGIES at Cisco)" 
> <ksek...@cisco.com> <ksek...@cisco.com> 09/25/17 9:33 AM >>>
>
> At the time of creating this patch, epel was part of Makefile and
> python34 was installed as dependency from that repo.
> (see https://gerrit.fd.io/r/#/c/6983/53/Makefile)
> At later time, the epel stuff disappeared and with it also
> the possibility to add python34 as a centos dependency - commit
> bd8e242024fcc2daffa77bdd6e2da1296ace5c69. I remember pointing this out
> in discussion with Neale, but I didn't get a chance to test whether
> centos works or not before it was merged.
>
> That's OK. You would have had to test with a system without EPEL Repo
> enabled to discover this problem.
>
> I should have paid closer attention when this patch was first discussed in
> May. Please add me as a reviewer for patches that have implications for RPM
> packaging and requirements.
>
> I think it would be nice though to update other scripts too so to have one 
> single python version used across the board.
> Currently, to build VPP on our distribution I need to require both python and 
> python3 packages since some python scripts use one rather than the other.
> Aligning python versions would make downstream consumption better I believe.
> Is this something which will/could be done?
>
> See below.
>
>
> As for the solution, I can think of 3 options:
>
> 1.) require python3 (which has been around for some ~9 years now)
> 2.) disable generation of the C (and C++) API if python3 is not detected
>
> I think this would be a fair compromise for distros not supporting (yet) 
> python3. However, I am not sure how this would result in the VPP CI... 
> wouldn't this break all tests running over those API?
>
> Tests are python2.7 because scapy wasn't python3 capable when we
> designed the test framework.
>
> These are language bindings, not different API calls. Only test_vapi,
> which tests that the language bindings of different types (simple
> request, dump, event, etc.) work would have to be disabled.
>
> I think this is a good interim work-around until the distros have Python3.
> I can submit another patch to allow this the inclusion would be enabled as
> a default but could be disabled only in downstream builds in RHEL and
> Centos 7.
>
> When will we have tests in CSIT that use the C/C++ APIs in 17.10?
>
> Neale, are we planning to cherry-pick this patch into 17.10?
>
> Do we have yet tests in CSIT that use the C/C++ APIs in 17.10?
>
>
>
>  3.) convert the script to python2.7 (which is in the opposite direction of
> where we would want to go wrt python version)
>
> Thanks,
> Klement
>
> Cheers,
> Marco
>
> Quoting Thomas F Herbert (2017-09-23 15:55:10)
>
>    All:
>
>    Commit 8f2a4ea, Gerrit,  [1]https://gerrit.fd.io/r/#/c/6983/ "Add new C
>    API"
>
>    introduces a dependency on Python 3 and breaks downstream builds for
>    Centos.
>
>    Unfortunately, neither RHEL nor Centos currently support Python 3.
>
>    Most VPPers are probably building with EPEL repo so this problem didn't
>    show up until now but actually there is no dependency on EPEL in the
>    Makefile or spec file.
>
>    If anybody can suggest a solution short of pushing Python 3 into the
>    downstream repos, I am open to suggestions.
>
>    --Tom
>
>    --
>    Thomas F Herbert
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>    Office of Technology
>    Red Hat
>
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