On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 01:23:50AM +0100, Gilles wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> > > 1. Removing dispensable packages:
> > >
> > >      pciutils fdutils ipchains makedev ppp pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf
> > >      dhcp-client console-common console-data console-tools klogd sysklogd
> > >
> > >    [Note: klogd still triggers that cpu-hogging behaviour, which makes it 
> > >    *indispensable* to remove...]
> > 
> > I think you'd want to keep sysklogd but just remove klogd - you'll
> > still want the software in the vserver guest to log their stuff to
> > /var/log/something via a syslogd running within the vserver guest,
> > right?
> 
> Yes, certainly.  Unfortunately, sysklogd "Depends" on klogd!
>  
> > This is something my suggestion for a (virtual) vserver-guest Debian
> > package would have handled automatically, but the concensus was that
> > such a package wasn't needed.
> 
> If I remember correctly, that package ought to have been installed on the
> guest, but I would think that the removal of things-that-get-in-the-way-
> of-virtuality should be handled at guest creation ("vserver build").
> 
> Why ask of everyone that "builds" a vserver to clean up their 
> "hardware-related"
> initscripts when the parts that pose problem are known?
> Most probably, the actual setting up depends on the distribution but since
> some of them start to be somehow supported within the tools (through the
> ".distribution" directory), it seems logical to handle that problem at
> that level too.
> [And that would avoid repeating on the mailing list, every now and then,
> that the guest system config must be stripped off hardware-related scripts...]
> As was pointed out in a previous answer in this thread, for Debian it would
> be readily handled by passing an option to "debootstrap".

will look into providing a 'virtual' kmsg soon ...
(so don't invest more into that right now than removing
the klogd line in the scripts ;)

best,
herbert


> Best,
> Gilles
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