On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 04:35:47PM -0400, Chuck wrote:
> On Monday 17 October 2005 05:03 am, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> 
> thats was it o great guru :) thank you! 

you're welcome!

> all i had to do was add my thusers to e tty group and terminal windows
> now work.
>
> still doesn't fix the startup problem though where after a guest start
> i have to log into kde as root then log out to allow regular users
> to log in. without this, kde only gets to some point in initializing
> services and then dies.
>
> i did notice one thing but i dont know if this would have a bearing
> on it or not.. whenever i start xdm which then runs kdm, i get this
> error:
> 
> kdm[5185]: XDMCP socket creation failed, errno 97
> 
> however, after i have done the root login, i can restart xdm all i    
> want and it gets that error every time but nothing affects my login   
> as a regular user. it always continues to work until the guest is     
> restarted again.                                                      
>
> i have no clue where to look for that problem :) everything within
> the kdm/xdm/kde framework has a single ip listen address assigned.
> everything within kde that i need for remote admin work and personal
> option config for kde works fine.
>
> i have removed everything else from the menu since its not a 'play'
> desktop :)
>
> once i can get this to work without a root login first, then there is
> 100% success in running a remote kde desktop under a vserver guest :)

hmm, a remote logon might actually change the 
'ownership' of the tty entries and/or some permissions
it might also create some files and/or initialize
some authentication stuff ... maybe do an ls -lR
before and after that root login (inside the guest!)
and check for differences (also in /dev, /dev/pts and
/tmp) ...

HTH,
Herbert

> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:30:50AM -0400, Chuck wrote:
> > > I almost hafve remote desktops working perfectly in a guest. I have two 
> issues 
> > > to deal with, one/both of which may be easy to solve?
> > > 
> > > When I log into the guest from remote after first starting the guest 
> so /tmp 
> > > is empty, KDE halts at initializing services and the connection 
> > > breaks,dropping out of guest memory as it should. I don't know what 
> > > causes 
> > > this but if I first log in as root after a guest startup, it all works 
> > > and 
> > > every user can log in properly afterward.. any clues why this happens?
> > > 
> > > It would be nice to figure this one out otherwise every time I restart 
> > > the 
> > > guest, I have to remember to log in as root then log out. It all works 
> > > for 
> > > users for as long as that guest remains running after root has logged in 
> and 
> > > out. I'm at a loss where to look on this one.
> > > 
> > > My other issue which is a fairly major one, is that from within KDE I 
> cannot 
> > > open any kind of terminal window, be it user / root shell, ssh shell, 
> > > nothing. Which tells me I need some kind of tty/pts definition that is 
> > > non-harmful. Any ideas there?
> > 
> > check the /dev/pts permissions and the groups, maybe your
> > permissions are too restrictive to allow terminal sessions
> > to work properly. also check the logs for pam messages and
> > verify that your pam setup is working correctly, e.g. on
> > was it FC4? disable the uuid audit plugin ...
> > 
> > HTH,
> > Herbert
> > 
> > > I have no  user-defined capabilities of any kind given to the guest. It 
> > > is 
> > > just as it was created.
> > > 
> > > Outside of these two things, it works perfectly and doesn't bother my 
> primary 
> > > desktop running on the host at all:)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 
> > > Chuck
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> -- 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger,
> and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath
> or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose 
> for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. "
> The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book
> 
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