Thanks Mr. Poetz.  I am by no mean suspecting your methods in anyway regarding building/cloning guest servers. 

Btw, thanks to smagnuson.  I just finished cloning guest servers. 

Now, I am into figuring out how to unify all these things.  Silly right? Because we use hard copy so in a scence it does not waste too much space.  However, after cloning, my 2 guest servers use about twice the  previous space.

Anyway, space is not so much an issue for me, I can live with the current settings, however, it would be great to know.

Best regards,
Steven.

PS.  It've seemed like when I tried to access the mailing list, I've not seen the most up to date messages.  It's been like around this time of day, the mailing list got updated.  I did not subcribe to receive directly from the mailing list, so I did not see all the answers.  Cheers.

On 10/19/05, Herbert Poetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 10:23:25AM -0700, Steven Truong wrote:
> Hi, Mr. Poetzl. Thanks for answering my question.
>
> Regarding the user-space command, ah, maybe I did not think
> it through when I wrote that. But my concern is that once you
> hard copy a guest server, then you still need to copy/create
> /etc/vservers/newtest, where newtest is the name of the newly copied
> server /vservers/newtest. Basically, by copying by hand, users have to
> take of these steps???
>
> Or should you suggest to use vserver-copy, then delete
> /vservers/newtest, then hard-copy. Because my guess is that
> vserver-copy would take care some of the works regarding configuration
> files.

no forget about vserver-copy, you create the config with
the skeleton build method, the only missing thing then is
the actual guest data, which you copy over with the cp -a

> I have troubles carrying out some of the steps because I just don't
> know which of which is legacy or new. I have tried to absord as much
> infor as possible but I am sure I might forget some of the readings.

it's quite simple actually ...

LEGACY: util-vserver 0.3x, vserver 0.3x, 2.4 kernel + vs1.0/vs1.2
         this uses the 'single file' config with IPROOT and friends

New/Current: util-vserver 0.30.20x, 2.6 kernel +vs2.0
         note: (alpha) util-vserver and newstyle work quite fine
         on 2.4 kernels too ...

> Could you suggest or point to document(s) that describe(s) correct
> ways of doing these things?

most tool info is on http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver

> Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

you're welcome!

best,
Herbert

> Steven.
>
> On 10/19/05, Herbert Poetzl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 04:55:24PM -0700, Steven Truong wrote:
> > > Hi, all. Thanks for your answers. Thank *smagnuson and* Mr. Poetzl . As
> > Mr.
> > > Poetzl suggested by those two commands, then we just build one guest
> > server
> > > and then (hard) copy by: 'cp -va' the whole guest server to the new one.
> > Is
> > > it possible that we bypass the user-space commands/utilities to clone a
> > > guest this way? If so, then wonderful.
> >
> > what do you mean by bypass user-space commands?
> >
> > > Btw, is it the best possible and portable way?
> >
> > please elaborate!
> >
> > best,
> > Herbert
> >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 10/18/05, Steven Truong < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, all. It is a good idea to build a guest server with basic all
> > around
> > > > apps and then clone this basic server to other guest of the same
> > > > distribution, in my case FC4. Then for each clone, I would be able to
> > add
> > > > specific apps to it.
> > > >
> > > > For this matter, I could not find enough information to try. It seems
> > like
> > > > for Gentoo distribution
> > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vserver-howto.xmlshows that you can tar the
> > whole guest server and then reuse this tarball.
> > > >
> > > > I also found vserver-copy and read the man page and tried this on my
> > > > configured guest server. I got the following error trying to copy my
> > lanweb
> > > > FC4 guest server to a newtest guest server:
> > > >
> > > > vserver-copy -v lanweb/ newtest
> > > > I: vserver-copy: called on abc-25 at Tue Oct 18 12:28:25 PDT 2005
> > > > newtest
> > > > E: vserver-copy: Vserver file "/etc/vservers/lanweb/.conf" does not
> > exist
> > > >
> > > > Coudl somebody tell me what .conf file and where/how to configure/find
> > it?
> > > > Is it the same file with /etc/vservers/lanweb/lanweb.conf file.
> > Currently, I
> > > > disabled/do not have this lanweb.conf file.
> > > > In the man page, it also mention about /etc/vservers/vserver.conf and
> > with
> > > > my current settings, I don't have this file either.
> > > >
> > > > Could someone give me some information regarding all of these .conf
> > files?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you in advance for all your helps.
> > > > Steven.
> > > >
> >
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