It does happen with 1.22, sorry.

Stef.
-----Original Message-----
From: cgavin
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21/09/00 6:01
Subject: Re: [vtcl-user] Menu problems

What version of Visual Tcl are you using ?

I have seen this problem with 1.2.1. It is linked to the "root window"
placer
problem, apparently a Tk bug, where Tk returns the wrong information
about
a window. Then this information is wrongly saved into the file and the
next
time it is reloaded it breaks.

Try it with 1.2.2 and let me know if it still happens.

Christian

Eric Taylor wrote:

> At 10:35 AM 09/20/00 +0200, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I'm trying to use menu's in vtcl. It seemed to work well, I think I
> understand
> >how it works, but all of a sudden, I had a problem:
> >When I was editing menus, vtcl suddenly created a menu on
> >toplevel (".m37"). I couldn't show this menu, but it was shown in the
widget
> >tree, strangely connected to other menu's with a line. I
> >managed to delete it, by using the vtcl "delete" (in the edit menu).
It
> >disappeared from the widget tree, but the tree still looks strange.
When I
> save
> >the project, and reopen it, I get messages like 'Can't use
placer....,
> >use wm instead" (or something similar). Also, the menus I allready
created
> >(the good ones) seem to be lost (allthough I still see them in the
widget
> >tree...)
> >
> >These kind of problems happened to me twice, but now I'm trying to
reproduce
> >them, and I don't succeed (of course!). So I can't tell you what I
did
> exactly
> >to have these problems. Anyone an idea what I could have done wrong?
>
> I don't think you did anything wrong. I too see this sometimes. I
believe
> these are caused by small bugs in vtcl. I get around these problems by
doing
> saves and reloads quite often. If I get a problem, I backup to a prior
> version. A few times, this did not work, as a problem got propogated
> into my saves before I realized something was wrong. And I did not
want
> to go back to a long-ago prior version.
>
> In that case I do a file compare to see what has changed and sometimes
> there is a
> line that gets deleted in the boilerplate area of the procedures at or
around:
>
> VTCL GENERATED GUI PROCEDURES
>
> I then "patch up" the code around that point and it seems to work for
me.
>
> Unfortunately, I do not have enough knowledge to fix the actual
> problems, so I just live with it. I have gotten a lot of mileage
> from vtcl and even have looked at a commercial alternative, but
> did not find it very easy to use.
>
> I like the simplicity of vtcl and especially the open source and
> the ability to edit procedures using either vtcl or my own
> favorite editor since vtcl's "project" format is pure tcl code.
>
> The fact that vtcl is a little buggy is something
> I just work around. The tradeoff has been worthwhile for me.
>
> Hope this gives you some perspective on vtcl.
>
> eric
>
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