Charlie, a friend of mine knows the fisherman, and he said the fisherman
recounted your comment to my friend, and the fisherman was a wee bit
embarrassed.  But, because he is a beginner, he can't cast for much distance
(maybe 30 feet) and needed all the 'cheating' he could to get his line out.

He actually caught 3 fish before moving back after your comments; he didn't
catch any others after moving back.    I noticed your report neglected any
'catching' details;  did you catch any or in close to shore?

Sometimes the fish are in close, sometimes they're not, and sometimes
they're in both places and just ain't biting.   I fished in another South
Sound location where three guys were out up to their armpits in water, and
were just nailing the the fish in.  I couldn't get out as far, or out far
enough to reach their spot, and couldn't buy one.   Sometimes it takes a
long cast, sometimes a short cast.  Most of the folks I know that fish salt,
generally they feel the longer your cast, the more likely it is you may
catch fish.  There are instances where the short is better.  But,  just like
I'm sure you have,  I've had them take within a few feet of where I was
standing, but I've also had them take far.  I fished another time last year
in the South Sound where another friend of mine was just hammering the fish
in close, and two other people ran down to joing him  The latter were
busting long casts and not getting anything, but my buddy continued to pop
the fish, because he was casting maybe 20' out where the fish were holding
in the current (key coment, the latter, for you beginners).  Oh, my friend
forgot to tell the the others they were casting out too far.   :-)

At Lincoln Park, I sometimes prefer to wade out a fair distance, depending
on where the tide is, so I don't hook pedestrians, bikers and what not on my
backcast.

So, for you guys that are just starting out in the saltwater, fishing the
salt can be like fishing any water.  When you walk up to it, watch a few
minutes to see if there are any fish showing themselves, and watch to see
where the tides may be creating those spots where the fish may be holding.
Sometimes the fish may be in close to shore, sometimes they are just outside
of your casting range (or then some!), and you'll be able to tell where you
need to wade and cast.  There can be the occasion where you need to wade out
to where your pockets are full of water when you come in.   And, there can
be occasion where a 40' cast or less is sufficient.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Mastro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Whoooa!


>Funny thing Leland, I was on the Snoqualmie from 6:15 to 7:15 last night in
>the run just above the one where I saw you a few weeks ago (that's code so
>no one will figure out where we were). Just about dark I had a large fish
>take my fly bend my spey rod then as I started to reel him in he came
>unbuttoned and headed for points unknown.  Needless to say I was out there
>this morning to chase that fish or his friends.  Duh!  What was I thinking,
>it was mud from bank to bank, didn't check anything just got up and drove
>right out.
>       Turned the truck around and headed for Lincoln Park right?  Well it
>was a nice but fruitless 2 hours and the 3 other guys didn't fare any
>better. I had one little bite and another guy had a little bite, nothing to
>the beach.
>       When I was leaving I had to stop and talk to this one guy who was
>chest deep at the point just casting away.  I asked him if he fished here
>much and he said this was his second time and I says " That would explain
>why you are standing where the fish are".  He quickly retreats to shore
with
>the pockets of his jacket just spouting water for all they're worth. He was
>quite a sight and from the bulges in his pockets I'm not sure if he didn't
>have his fly boxes in those pockets.  He thanked me and said he was new at
>this and appreciated my help.  I just hate to watch someone make a fool out
>of themselves.
>Tight lines my friends,
> Charlie
>
>
>>
>> I fished the Snoqualmie yesterday afternoon. The flow was perfect and I
>> thought a steelhead was going to be in my near future. Brian Lencho and I
>> went to fish the Sky this morning. What a difference a few inches of
>> overnight rain can make.
>>
>> I ran into a nice little nest of coho last saturday during the early
>> morning minus tides. I dropped by a favorite beach to do a little searun
>> fishing. The third cast produced a wake of monstrous porportions behind
my
>> little #8 popper. The next cast resulted in a silver of 5-6 pounds. After
>> that, there were no more fish interested in chasing down cripples. I tied
>> on one of Mike Croft's flies and had three strikes on my next three
casts.
>> In the next hour, I caught and released three more good fish before the
>> tide pushed me back too far from the coho condos.
>>
>> On sunday morning, I was on the water at 5am to see if the popper would
>> work under cover of darkness. Remember how cold it was last weekend?
Well,
>> it was butt-cold armpit deep in the saltwater. This time, I hooked eight
>> fish and landed seven, one of which was a hook-nosed beast that was
between
>> 10 and 15 pounds (closer to 15, I would say).
>>
>> On monday, the tide was later and not as low. I hooked and landed three.
>> All the fish I caught on these three days were over 5 pounds. They were
>> porpoising and happy-jumping everywhere.
>>
>> On tuesday, they were all gone.
>>
>> Leland.
>>
>>
>>
>



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