Looked at the list and it seems we have 253 unique addresses on the list. That is up 
40 from just a month ago and 100 from when I first started working on the site about 
year ago. not sure about unique posts. Need to get stuff like the archive search 
function fixed before I cold look into that and am not sure how helpful it would be.

-sea



On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:33:45   
 Kent Lufkin wrote:
>Hi Andy,
>
>First things first. The small, unnamed eastern Washington lake did 
>not have any sort of discernable food activity last Friday, at least 
>that we could determine. My partners tried big dries (hoppers, 
>terrestrials), chironomids (under an indicator along the reeds to the 
>SE shore), and scuds. Nothing. Nada.
>
>What did work was anything olive (BH wooly buggers, leeches, bird's 
>nests, damsel & dragon nymphs, etc.), black (marabou and bunny 
>leeches) and an odd assortment of smaller (size 8 - 12) nymphs such 
>as prince, PTs and GRHEs.
>
>We brought 13 fish to hand in 6 hours of fishing, pretty slow at only 
>about one fish per 1-1/2 fisherman hours. All were cookie cutter 
>triploids from 16 to 22 inches except for a single 15 inch brown. 
>Judging from the conversations I overheard from others, fishing was 
>slow (by comparison with earlier in the year) across the board.
>
>Everyone seemed to agree that the fish were more adept at the head 
>shake than before. I LDR'd perhaps twice as many as I landed. Wonder 
>if smarter fish are a function of more angling pressure?
>
>Your comment about the Wenatchee club was interesting. Aside from the 
>two Oregon plated cars I mentioned, I didn't pay much attention to 
>where the others were from. In the past when there were just a few 
>other fishers on the water, everyone seemed to be from the Seattle 
>area except for an old timer named Earl who lives 'just down the 
>road' and has been fishing there forever.
>
>Not sure how many subscribers are on the list at present. Perhaps 
>Sean Ransom could cobble up a script to ping the database and provide 
>that information periodically. I'd also be interested in learning 
>about subscriber turnover. I know several old timers have left (Jere, 
>Les J. and others), but my sense is that there are far more newcomers 
>who've replaced them. I'd also be interested in learning about how 
>newcomers found out about the list.
>
>Aside from winter anadromous fishing, fishing should be slowing down 
>soon. Perhaps this might be a good time to gather photos and stories 
>about the year's fisning trips and make a push to update the web site?
>
>Kent Lufkin
>
>
>
>>Kent,
>>
>>Thanks for the report on the "small, unnamed lake in eastern wa." I had been
>>planning on going back this fall, thinking that it might be a nice change of
>>pace. It is good to know in advance that I should not be expecting any
>>solitude from the occasion. I do have one question as it was going to be my
>>principle reason for the late fall return - was there any water boatman
>>activity while you were there? With all of that shallow water I thought the
>>potential was there for a good boatman fall after the cold weather arrived.
>>
>>As a point of information on the way that I got there in the Spring - it was
>>not through word of mouth, but through data mining a number of sources (I
>>was feeling very proud of myself for having found it...) The day I arrived
>>coincided with the day the word got out - as a Wenatchee fishing club
>>apparently announced it at a Saturday evening meeting. That Sunday morning
>>the parking lot was full and from a few conversations on the water and at
>>the ramp the majority of the people were there from the Wenatchee area and
>>because of that reference at the meeting. I did find an individual that had
>>been fishing the lake for the previous several days/weekends and prior to
>>that morning he had not seen more than 3 other anglers on the water. The
>>lesson, it does not take much word of mouth for a spot to become discovered.
>>The question - does that mean that it should not have been discovered and
>>that the state funded rotenone and restocking program should have benefited
>>only a few instead of many?
>>
>>To follow-up the discussion that Patrick started: what is the
>>"responsibility" of the participants on this list to contribute
>>reports/information to the list-serve, instead of merely lurking and soaking
>>up the knowledge of others? Even veiled references, such as Kent's, can be
>>very useful to other members, but any such reference also bares the risk of
>>"unleashing the unwashed masses." It is a fine line to walk. To the lurkers:
>>I hope that you realize that you too need to step up to the plate
>>occasionally, or eventually the list will degrade down to the point where no
>>"useful" information is ever swapped for fear that there will be no
>>reciprocation. To the newbies: there are occasionally questions on the list
>>that would be best answered by searching the archives first. And to all:
>>tight lines!
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>PS Kent out of curiosity, how many subscribers does the list currently have
>>and is there an easy way to compare that number with the number of unique
>>posters during a given period?
>>
>>
>>From: "Kent Lufkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:39 AM
>>Subject: Re: where have all the reports gone?
>>
>>
>>  > Richard,
>>  >
>>  > Your example is dead-on. Same thing happened to me this year. Heard
>>  > about a small, unnamed lake in eastern Washington that had received a
>>  > dose of rotenone late last year followed by plants of browns and
>>  > triploids in the spring. The guys who told me about it swore me to
>>  > secrecy, so I didn't post anything for that reason, although I did
>>  > tell a couple of my regular fishing buddies.
>>  >
>>  > The first couple times I went there, the fishing was even better than
>>  > I could have imagined. The muscular triploids regularly pulled me
>>  > into my backing and put a week-long grin on my face. But the best
>>  > part was that at most there were only 2 or 3 other guys there.
>>  >
>>  > Well I went back last Friday to find the small parking area filled
>>  > with cars, trucks and RVs, including 2 from Oregon, and over 20
>>  > flyfishers on the water. Looked like opening weekend at Lake Lenice
>>  > except the little lake is only about a third that size. I ducked
>>  > backcasts all day long and even watched two guys get their lines
>>  > tangled up, just like combat fishing at Hoodsport or the Kenai.
>>  >
>>  > Looks like I wasn't the only person those guys had told.
>>  >
>>  > Kent Lufkin
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > >By example, a friend of mine and I took a prominent List person to a
>>  > >prime fishing spot last year, shared with him the techniques
>>  > >required for that spot, species, and time of year, swore him to
>>  > >secrecy, and guess what?  I know of several List  members, with whom
>>  > >he regularly fishes, who now 'just happen' to know the same spot and
>>  > >technique.  This spot can only accommodate 2, maybe 3 persons at one
>>  > >time.  It's a bummer to go to 'your' fishing spot to find it filled
>>  > >with folks who are friends of someone else with whom you 'shared'
>>  > >the spot.
>>  > >
>>  > >And, as far as posting that type of information on the List, I think
>>  > >it's the rule, rather the exception, that there tends to be a herd
>>  > >effect to certain fishing spots after someone posts a favorable
>>  > >fishing report.  I'm not saying it's bad, it's just the way it is.
>>  >
>>  >
>
>


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