Generally concur.

For dry flies, think of that picture you've seen many times before of a
full-hackled fly sitting on a water surface.  The hackle is supposed to
elevate the front of the fly from the water surface; therefore, the down eye
will now be close to paralleling the water surface.

For me, when using an unweighted (or weighted, actually, for that matter)
fly with a sinking line, I like to use straight-eye hooks.  I like to think
the fly will align itself and track with the travel route of the fly line.
Probably just a bunch of hooey . . .

In smaller nymphs and dry flies, I like up-eye for the former and straight
eye for the latter.  (Gene Gudger was the person who educated me on the
straight-eye for the wee dry flies).  In both cases it's to increase the
hook gape.  It's a minimal increase, but when using size 18-24 bugs, it
could make a difference.

Richard



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From: "Pat Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: The eyes have it ;-)


>
> Presentation angle. Seems to me it depends on the combination of line
type,
> weighted or non-weighted fly, and current. When I tie nymphs or other
> sub-surface flies, I think about how I intend to present the fly: on an
> intermediate to fast sink line with an unweighted fly in a lake, I'd tend
> to use a down eye...same in current with a fast sink tip & a weighted fly.
> However, on an unweighted nymph under an indicator I think it would
present
> better in a current with an up eye.
>
> PB
>
>
> Kent Lufkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/12/2001 09:53:59 AM
>
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
> Subject:  The eyes have it ;-)
>
>
>
> I notice that some manufacturers of nymph or wet fly hooks design
> them with 'up' eyes (Orvis, Tiemco, etc), instead of the 'down' eye
> typical of dry fly hooks. Atlantic salmon flies are traditionally
> tied on up eye hooks (from Partridge, Alec Jackson and others).
>
> What is the advantage, if any, to an up eye hook for a subsurface fly?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kent Lufkin
>
>
>
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