Bought my Orvis silver label off Ebay for next to nothing, broke it the
second day out falling on my butt thanks to those rubber hipster waders.
(shiver..)

They sent me a brand new rod within a couple weeks.

Send it back, you may be surprised...

I have the full-flex, which quite frankly took me awhile to realize how to
cast well.  Full-flex (IMO) is even more forgiving than mid-flex, and I can
cast as far with it. Its much like the flex of a golf club, full-flex
requires slower more fluid motion.

I built a tip-flex rod (non-orvis) to fight the wind though. Casting a
Full-Flex in wind is painful.  Impossible in the wind on the Bitterroot and
Im guessing the Yak wind is worse or comparable.

No real experience with Sage to compare.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Lufkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rod Replacement


I second Sean's review of the Orvis Silver Label. I fished a 4-piece 
9 foot 4wt for a couple of seasons before selling it and buying a 
Sage XP 4-piece 10 foot 4wt.

I found the Orvis action to be remarkably forgiving. The Sage is a 
much more difficult rod for me to cast well (although that probably 
says more about my casting skills than the rod ;-)

But at about a third the price of the Sage, I think the Orvis Silver 
Label rod is a terrific value.

Kent Lufkin

>Sorry to hear about the rod. I think you would like the action of a 
>silver label
>mid flex rod. You can cast them at the bellevue store I hear.
>
>If you are not adverse to shopping online. I just bought a 9'6" 7wt 
>here with no
>problems (or tax):
>
>http://bluequillangler.com/store/flyfishing_rods.html
>
>They are having big sales on the silver labels as well as the 
>tridents.  I have
>only fished the rod a couple times but really like it.
>
>happy hunting,
>
>-sean
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,    I would like your advice. Last summer, while fishing the
pocket
>>  water in the upper Sauk River, I clumsily stepped on a roundish boulder
that
>>  was as slippery as a greased bowling ball,did a half pirouette, went
>>  airborne,and did a pratfall in shallow water that would have made the
Three
>>  Stooges envious. I climbed out on the bank with a very wet behind and a
>>  couple of bumps and bruises but worst of all, I had splintered my
beloved,
>>  old, ( 30 + years ) Orvis, Performer rod. It had that rather moderate,
full
>>  flex action that was easy to cast and it came alive with a fish on, even
a
>>  small one . It was a 9 foot, 2 piece, 6 weight that I used for
everything
>>  from rivers and small streams to the alpine lakes. I'd like to replace
it
>>  with a similar type rod. My budget tells me that I shouldn't spend more
than
>>  about $250 or so. Also, I like the 25 year warranty that some rod makers
>>  offer. I've been considering rods from the Orvis Silver Label series;
>>  Cabela's PT series; and St. Croix Legend, Avid, Imperial, or Pro
Graphite so
>>  far. Any recommendations from you experts out there would be most
>  > appreciated. Thanks!   Bob Martin

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