I just want to add a little in terms of why I got so upset about the Feb
FlyFisherman cover... not more than a few weeks ago my partner was talking
to Jack at the Evening Hatch and he had a serious case of lockjaw re the
picture posted on his website of the big brown.  After trading a couple
other secrets to him we found out about the area that the fish was caught
in.  Now I'm concerned that the things we told him might be leveraged for
more $350/person trips to fragile and essentially unknown waters.  It is my
opinion, and ONLY my opinion, that the picture was submitted to FlyFisherman
in an attempt to bolster their guiding business.  I realize that the man is
in the business of making money, I'm not that naive, but I'm just (still)
upset that there is not more ethic involved.  I understand also that not
everyone can, will, or should subscribe to what I consider ethical... but
I'm still personally upset by it all.

I hope that y'all are right in that it's just too far away to be severely
impacted by the attention it's received.  I was aghast when I saw the
magazine - now that has been tempered a bit.  I know, most people don't take
the time or have the gumption to put that many miles behind them in search
of trout (I'm just a nut [or idiot] that way).  I'm just concerned - that's
all.  Only time will tell.

I apologize to anyone that I may have offended - hopefully I haven't
offended...

The critters that live out there, fish included, are really great survivors
to live and thrive in those conditions - it's a real balancing act for them.
So, to all of you, if you ever make it out to the shrub-steppe, please tread
lightly and don't play the fish too hard.  It's really some beautiful
country, though certainly rough around the edges, and should be treated with
a great deal of respect.  Thanks.

-tight lines-
Jim Speaker

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Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 9:28 AM
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Subject: The yuppie issue


I hate to even post to this topic since it seems I have really stepped in it
already this week but my Dad always said I had more guts then brains so here
we go.  LOL!

The sport of fly fishing has changed dramatically in the last 40 years and
for those who have been involved with it most of that time, the  current
easy
access to the sport is a radical departure from tradition.  Let me explain:

>From the time my father and his friends returned from WWII through the late
70's, fly fishing was a sport based on camaraderie, love of the outdoors and
content over image.  In those days, you couldn't just walk into a fly shop
and get geared up, sign up for a casting class and be on the water in a few
weeks.  You had to seek out the people with the knowledge, equipment and
willingness to teach.  On your end, you had to be a decent enough fellow
that
these people wanted to befriend you.  Personal reputation, honor and
integrity played a big role in the development of the sport.  You still see
bits of this tradition in a lot of fly clubs during the pledge process.  A
current member often has to bring you before the group and explain your
contributions to the sport in order to gain membership.

Fast forward to today.  If I didn't know a thing about the sport, I could
drive to a fly shop, buy whatever gear I could afford, sign up for classes
on
fly tying, casting, rod building etc. and then head off to the river and
hire
a guide.  This method has given many people a lot more access to the sport
which is a good thing in my opinion.  However it has depersonalized the
sport
a lot and so the traditions and ethics have been lost on many.

A person can lack total ethics and respect for the sport but because they
have access to the equipment and have the money to get into the sport they
appear on the stream and wreak havoc.  You all have witnessed this.  The guy
that cuts in below you on your favorite steelhead run, the guy that parks
his
butt in the hole for 3 hours without moving, the people who cast across your
lines to make you leave, the person bonking wild steelhead on the head and
taking them home.  These are the people that Roger was describing.  The
Orvis
hatch, the yuppie, the sport or whatever term you want to use.   They have
more money then ethics and it drives us all up the wall.   Not all of them
look like they fell out of a catalog or drive Lexus SUV's to the fishing
hole
but enough of them do that the stereo type has stuck (again for better or
worse).

So in closing, I don't think Roger's use of the term Yuppie was aimed at
anybody that lives in a metropolitan area or drives a fancy vehicle.  Hell
if
I could afford a nice SUV I would probably buy one.  Instead I think he is
describing the new era of fly fisherman who have fallen through the cracks
and view the outdoors as their playground and to hell with everyone else.
It
is all our responsibility to try and educate these people and explain that
there is a lot more to it then just having the gear and the basic know how.

I hope that made sense without coming across as an elitist snob.  That
wasn't
my intention.

Mike


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