Don,

the simple answer is DON'T USE the Dial up software! Once the software has
been set up have your browser set to use the Dial-Up Networking instead.
This means you only have 1 number that will be called. Period! I have been a
member of MSN since 1 hour after it was turned on and I have never had a
problem with it (Other than getting almost 2 free years of service due to
them not charging me for being a beta user!) Just note the way the UserName
is in the Dial-Up Networking... It is usually MSN\UserName. This is because
they use a Windows Domain to validate the dial up account and that is the
way Windows does it. If you have any questions let me know offline.

Gary Johnson
Sr. Software Engineer
NetUpdate, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Don Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BEWARE the Qwest/MSN changeover


This is totally unrelated to anything these lists were
designed for but I think it is important it get out
there. If you don't use MSN and haven't changed over
from Qwest recently, please disregard.

This is just a note to warn any of you who were Qwest
internet customers and are now MSN customers to beware
of the MSN dial-up software and double-check the
numbers that the program dials. Those that are
familiar with the recent switchover might remember
that the software they sent prompts you to choose a
local number from a choice of about 4, if I remember
correctly. In my case, not only did I choose the local
number but confirmed that with an operator AND deleted
the other three NON-local choices so that there was 
supposedly no way I could incur long distance charges
as a result of connecting to the internet.

In actuality, what happens is that the software
defaults back to numbers it originally offered you.
While surfing and after being connected for a while,
if there is a long period of inactivity the system
disconnects the connection. When a connection is
reestablished it dials the next number on the list,
which happens to be a long distance number in my case.
Having taken the three long distance numbers out of
the realm of possibly being use, or so I thought, I
didn't pay much attention to the number it was dialing
when I reconnected. That mistake has now accrued a
$150 long distance phone bill for me on that dedicated
line. 

To add insult to injury, after 2 hours on the phone
with customer service (customer dis-service actually),
technical support and the billing department not only
is my bill not rectified but I don't (neither do they)
know how to fix the problem in the software that
caused the problem in the first place. Merry Christmas
from Microsoft!!! 

One thing I do know for sure...Billy just lost a
customer.

Anyway, if you are in the Qwest/MSN changeover
predicament, please check your system and be aware of
which phone number the dial-up software is really
using each and every time it dials.

~Don Johnson~


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