Thanks for the reports.  I am wondering what the situation is closer to I-5.  
Granted, the fishing might not be as good, but is the area from the end of 
the residential area to the first or 2nd bridge safer for parking and fishing?
EH

In a message dated 6/4/02 7:49:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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> Subj:  RE: MF Snoqualmie issues
>  Date:    6/4/02 7:49:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>  From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steblina)
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>  The trick as you mention is to change the "clinetele".  I would suggest
>  "fish-in" activities on week-nights or weekends.  Co-ordinate them with
>  Washington Trails Association or other hiking or mountain biking groups.  
>  I do know that there is a Middle Fork Group that has been organized
>  that could help reclaim that area.  What you want is 
>  lots of "normal" people using the area.  That more than anything else
>  will help move the riff-raff along. You might also want to contact King
>  County and the Forest Service to put some emphasis patrols on those dates.
>  
>  Vladimir 
>  
>  ps...we don't want them in eastern Washington.
>  
>  
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent Lufkin
>  > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:06 AM
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Subject: MF Snoqualmie issues
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Having recently received various reports about fishing along the MF 
>  > Snoqualmie, I posted a query last week to both this list and the 
>  > HiLakers list about access beyond Goldmeyer Hot Springs.
>  > 
>  > Beyond simple access considerations, I received several off-list 
>  > replies with accounts of confrontations with local weirdos, being 
>  > shot at, and car break-ins while fishing along both the MF and NF 
>  > Snoqualmie. Below are a couple of on-point replies from the 
>  > more-lively discussion thread on the HiLaker's list:
>  > 
>  > >The problems in the MidFork valley go well beyond a bit of plinking.
>  > >Check out this meth lab http://midfork.org/perl/fram.pl?url_id=10. In
>  > >the past 5 years volunteers have hauled 85 tons of trash out of the
>  > >MidFork valley. Steve Bucher and I once arrived at Dingford Creek to
>  > >find 4 cars parked all of which had had a tire slashed and a window
>  > >broken out. One guy came back to his car at the Taylor River to find the
>  > >radiator had been blasted with a shotgun and several trees had been cut
>  > >down across the road. The activities up there go well beyond a bit of
>  > >fun by a few kids letting off steam. There are major problems that have
>  > >to be dealt with.
>  > 
>  > And:
>  > 
>  > >The FS just released their environmental analysis of proposed changes in
>  > >the Middle Fork valley. Details can be found here
>  > >http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/mbs/mf_atm/
>  > >
>  > >Congress has already appropriated funds to pave the road up to the
>  > >Taylor River. Their plan is to close off all the side roads that are
>  > >attracting riff raff  and try to keep the garbage cleaned up and the
>  > >crime down. The alternatives in the ea range from doing nothing to
>  > >closing the road at the Taylor River. Their preferred alternative is the
>  > >compromise position of closing the road at Dingford Creek. At this point
>  > >we are just waiting for their decision and once that decision comes down
>  > >we don't know when it will be implemented.
>  > 
>  > I'm posting these comments to help promote awareness of the issues 
>  > that seem to plague the MF area and to advise you all of the proposed 
>  > solutions as well. Closing the road at Taylor River will undoubtedly 
>  > improve fishing along the MF above that point simply by eliminating 
>  > vehicular access. Question is, will it also improve the area's 
>  > overall 'clientele'?
>  > 
>  > Your thoughts?
>  > 
>  > Kent Lufkin
>  > 
>  > 
>  

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