Thanks for (not) having the open mindedness to even listen to another point of view. My point was mainly that we have not seen a shortage of wood! But it is coming from somewhere, with no thought of from where and with what consequences! I love talking about these issues, especially with those who have the ability to discuss with give and take. Please allow this old fart to use the words of another: "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer.
Sorry for the flame, it was the "pack of lies" line that got me. Rob Blomquist wrote: > Personally, I feel for guys that think that we need all the wood that can be > supplied. In the years since the "cut it up and get out" fiasco the major > timber companies pulled, there has been no shortage of wood, there has just > been a reduction of logging the PNW, which was going to come spotted owl or > not. > > I feel sorry for guys like Keith and Jeff that have been fed a pack of lies by > the other side. We are in the midst of a serious environmental crisis in the > PNW, the North American Continent, and the World. The Bush administration > only wants to make business interests happy, not protect the environment. > > And I left the Sierra Club because it was only as bad as the orginazations of > the other side, not because I found the Club to be liars. And secondly, I > thnk that political rhetoric only gives slim success, the better successes > have to do with action on the ground. > > Rob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Blomquist > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:15 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Trout Conservation Groups > > > > > > > With this background, for those of us (and I understand this may not > > > > be for everyone on this mailing list) who want to do something about > > > > this situation, it seems the best course of action is to get involved > > > > with conservation groups. The big ones immediately come to mind: > > > > Trout Unlimited, The Nature Conservancy, The Wilderness Society, > > > > American Rivers, The Sierra Club, etc. My question for this list is: > > > > Which conservation groups do you believe are making big positive > > > > impacts on our fishing waters and their surrounding environments? If > > > > you could donate your money and time to only one group, which would it > > > > > > > > be? > > > > > > I was a long time supporter of the Sierra Club, but I got tired of their > > > > > > politics, which were as dirty as the other side. And I was involved > > > enough > > > with them to be on the local board. > > > > > > Now, I would suggest that everyone sends thier dollars to the Nature > > > Concervancy, American Rivers, and Washington Trout. > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > -- > > > "In our family, there is no clear line between religion and fly > > > fishing." > > > Norman Maclean > > > > > > Rob Blomquist > > > Kirkland, WA > > -- > "In our family, there is no clear line between religion and fly fishing." > Norman Maclean > > Rob Blomquist > Kirkland, WA -- JeffO The first rule of holes: if you are in one, stop digging.
